glad to hear a mention of the next album in the article but overall it paints a rather depressing and grim picture of a band I have spent my life loving.
Agree that the the "facts" aren't too hot but I selfishly hope the dark album takes a while to get released raising the need for another tour and prolongling it all a bit longer. RSX has been threatening pulling the plug for years but will hitting the big 50 make him really consider it again? Every Cure show feels like the last, every album feels like the last (except 413 because we know there is a part II). That's what makes it special and that's why we all HAVE to go. RSX is very adept at keeping us in the hanging garden and I for one love living there!
Yes, overall it was quite sad to read. I am torn between wanting The Cure to never end, ever, and wanting to hear Robert's solo stuff. I hope it's not an either/or scenario.
Good article, though full of inaccuracies as other have pointed out. Glad to hear the dark album is still being talked about. I was a bit put off by Robert's comments on Radiohead's pay-what-you-want experiment. I can see understand why unestablished and/or untalented acts might (and have) balk(ed) at the idea - afraid that if they tried the same it would largely backfire and they'd make nothing from the venture. (Can't imagine many fans of Britney would actually pay for her music if given the choice). However, I believe that those musicians with devoted cult followings (like the Cure) can pull it off in spades, as Radiohead has proved.
by the way, there is a new cure dvd, its not official obviously, it was released by the BBC and i think its been around since 2008. its called The Cure Live in Glasgow and it includes the glasgow show from 1984 and three tracks from a TV appearance in 1979
i bought it a couple weeks ago in the local store. its really good.
Hate to hate, but I quit listening to Robert's promises a long time ago. If he can't get the already produced 'dark' album out, how about the remasters?
Furrever: I agree with Robert's take on the Radiohead thing in that I firmly believe that artists must decide what to charge for their work - letting others decide is meh. Letting the market decide is meh too.
If technology came out that made duplicating my work simple and pervasive, it would really fuck me off to see people doing it and leaving me out of the equation. It is a complex issue. Obviously, I would have to adapt to the Brave New World somehow and so would the rest of the art world. Creativity is called for.
I thought what Radiohead did was an interesting experiment and certainly it was the most creative approach/attempt I have seen so far. The industry has been profoundly uncreative in how they have dealt with the file sharing issue.
Since you asked why he can't get the "already produced dark album" out, I have to mention that his contract dictates that there be a certain period of time between releases.
Maree: I see your point, but I'm not sure that I agree that "artist must decide what to charge for their work". Most artists' creativity is negatively impacted when told what to do. I think the artist should be able to do whatever they want with their work.
Having said that, I don't think the Radiohead experiment can work for everyone, nor am I saying that it should become the new model for selling music (it would fail miserably). I'm just defending artists' rights to determine for themselves how they want to market their music. I think Robert should respect that too.
Then we are in agreement, Furr, except in that Robert should respect it. Accept it he must. Respect, not so much. I think that insofar as artists' actions change industry expectations and shift the situation for everyone, he has a right to be fucked off about it. He also has a right to advocate against it or for whatever better alternatives he sees.
A good interview, but they need to get their facts straight. Roger O'Donnell was NOT a guitarist.
ReplyDeleteShawn: Remember when he played the guitar on Open? ; )
ReplyDelete"Smith, a man recognisable from three miles away in the thickest of blizzards"
ReplyDeleteHaha I love this description <3
Can't wait for the dark album. If Robert says it should be out this year, we can expect it sometime within the next five or so!
shawn-w..yes..nor was mick Dempsey!!
ReplyDeleteHeehee!
ReplyDeleteglad to hear a mention of the next album in the article but overall it paints a rather depressing and grim picture of a band I have spent my life loving.
ReplyDeleteNice way to start off the morning...very nice read
ReplyDeleteTHE HISTORY OF DVD!? WOW! THAT IS GOING TO BE AMAZING!!!!!Cant wait for the dark album
ReplyDeleteDidn't Roger play some guitar on Just Say Yes?
ReplyDeletewas a bit sad to read the Lol parts, quite cruel in my opinion. but its all in the past
ReplyDeletegood interview.. now we know why The Reaons Why came to be
It's really hard to face that the day will actually come when there is no new Cure music and/or tours. Maybe we can stop by when he barbeques.
ReplyDeleteAgree that the the "facts" aren't too hot but I selfishly hope the dark album takes a while to get released raising the need for another tour and prolongling it all a bit longer. RSX has been threatening pulling the plug for years but will hitting the big 50 make him really consider it again? Every Cure show feels like the last, every album feels like the last (except 413 because we know there is a part II). That's what makes it special and that's why we all HAVE to go. RSX is very adept at keeping us in the hanging garden and I for one love living there!
ReplyDeleteYes, overall it was quite sad to read. I am torn between wanting The Cure to never end, ever, and wanting to hear Robert's solo stuff. I hope it's not an either/or scenario.
ReplyDeleteGood article, though full of inaccuracies as other have pointed out. Glad to hear the dark album is still being talked about. I was a bit put off by Robert's comments on Radiohead's pay-what-you-want experiment. I can see understand why unestablished and/or untalented acts might (and have) balk(ed) at the idea - afraid that if they tried the same it would largely backfire and they'd make nothing from the venture. (Can't imagine many fans of Britney would actually pay for her music if given the choice). However, I believe that those musicians with devoted cult followings (like the Cure) can pull it off in spades, as Radiohead has proved.
ReplyDeletegreat interview i believe, funny in a way and sad in some other way, glad to hear again about the next album.
ReplyDeleteby the way, there is a new cure dvd, its not official obviously, it was released by the BBC and i think its been around since 2008. its called The Cure Live in Glasgow and it includes the glasgow show from 1984 and three tracks from a TV appearance in 1979
ReplyDeletei bought it a couple weeks ago in the local store. its really good.
link from amazon:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Cure-Live-In-Glasgow/dp/B001L1H1N6
thanks carlos! its definetly one of my faves, especially memorable, crowd playing a nice part! :D
ReplyDeleteyour dvd posting just made me hyperventilate!
Hate to hate, but I quit listening to Robert's promises a long time ago. If he can't get the already produced 'dark' album out, how about the remasters?
ReplyDeleteFurrever: I agree with Robert's take on the Radiohead thing in that I firmly believe that artists must decide what to charge for their work - letting others decide is meh. Letting the market decide is meh too.
ReplyDeleteIf technology came out that made duplicating my work simple and pervasive, it would really fuck me off to see people doing it and leaving me out of the equation. It is a complex issue. Obviously, I would have to adapt to the Brave New World somehow and so would the rest of the art world. Creativity is called for.
I thought what Radiohead did was an interesting experiment and certainly it was the most creative approach/attempt I have seen so far. The industry has been profoundly uncreative in how they have dealt with the file sharing issue.
Since you asked why he can't get the "already produced dark album" out, I have to mention that his contract dictates that there be a certain period of time between releases.
ReplyDeleteMaree: I see your point, but I'm not sure that I agree that "artist must decide what to charge for their work". Most artists' creativity is negatively impacted when told what to do. I think the artist should be able to do whatever they want with their work.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, I don't think the Radiohead experiment can work for everyone, nor am I saying that it should become the new model for selling music (it would fail miserably). I'm just defending artists' rights to determine for themselves how they want to market their music. I think Robert should respect that too.
Oh yeah, and the Cure rock! :-)
Then we are in agreement, Furr, except in that Robert should respect it. Accept it he must. Respect, not so much. I think that insofar as artists' actions change industry expectations and shift the situation for everyone, he has a right to be fucked off about it. He also has a right to advocate against it or for whatever better alternatives he sees.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, The Cure do rock! :^D
ReplyDeleteMaree: I'm with you. Freedom of speech for Robert! :-)
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