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Friday, October 7, 2016

The Cure in Helsinki (Oct. 7th, 2016)

October 7th, 2016
Hartwall Arena in Helsinki, Finland
Doors at 6 PM / The Twilight Sad 7 - 7:40 / The Cure 8:09 - 11:05
Get there early for The Twilight Sad! They are excellent!

Setlist: Plainsong, Closedown, High, A Night Like This, The Walk, Push, In Between Days, Lullaby, Let's Go To Bed, Sleep When I'm Dead, Pictures of You, The End of the World, Lovesong, Last Dance, From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea, Want, The Hungry Ghost, One Hundred Years, Disintegration

1st encore: It Can Never Be the Same, Prayers For Rain, Burn, A Forest

2nd encore: Shake Dog Shake, Never Enough, Fascination Street, Wrong Number

3rd encore: Friday I'm in Love, Doing the Unstuck, Just Like Heaven, Boys Don't Cry, The Lovecats, Hot Hot Hot, Close to Me, Why Can't I Be You?

Twilight Sad setlist:  Reflection of the Television, I Could Give You All That You Don't Want, Last January,  Mapped By What Surrounded Them, There's a Girl in the Corner, It Never Was The Same, I'm Taking the Train Home

Thanks so much to Antti, Steven, , , , and for the help tonight!

Periscopes: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

Preview articles: Rumba

Reviews: Kommersant / Soundi / MTV / Turun Sanomat / YLE / HS / Dome / Iltalehti / Rumba

Photos: Live Nation TV / Rumba / Rex Features

Videos: Full show - Part 1 & Part 2 / 30 videos from Tanina1313 / 79 minutes of highlights / First 66 minutes of the show / Plainsong / A Night Like This / Push / In Between Days / Lullaby 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 / Let's Go to Bed / Pictures of You 1 - 2 / Lovesong / Last Dance 1 - 2 / One Hundred Years & Disintegration / It Can Never Be The Same 1 - 2 - 3 / Prayers For Rain / Burn 1 - 2 - 3 / A Forest 1 - 2 - 3 / Shake Dog Shake 1 - 2 / Never Enough / Fascination Street 1 - 2 / Wrong Number / Friday I'm in Love / Friday I'm in Love & Doing The Unstuck / Just Like Heaven / Hot Hot Hot / Close To Me 1 - 2 

Best of luck to the bands and crews and everyone involved with the tour! Be safe and have a great time! Same goes to all of the fans, whether you're going to one show or following them around Europe & the UK. Have a blast!


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158 comments:

  1. Yes! I can help. Can i post the setlist here as it happens?

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  2. That preview article is kind of awesome. Thank you Google translate.

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  3. Come on Robert, change something!

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  4. Jesus what a boring setlist...hope to God they improve in Europe or im gonna seriously regret buyin tickets for 4 shows

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    1. Thanks, Antti! For the correction and the setlist!

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  6. Don't start with the whining about the setlist. It's one freaking show!

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    1. To be fair, the sets started becoming very predictable and singles orientated since the NZ/OZ leg of the tour...so this set cant be looked at in isolation...its virtually identical to the Oz setlists....i hope youre right and they do start mixing it up, because the start of the tour showed so much promise

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  7. So, they kick out the rarities and bsides they played at the beginning of the tour...it became too predictable. The last two encores are Always the same. I love you guys, but it's time to change something.

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    1. No it's not just that.the cure are alive but with nothing more to say. It s just nostalgia

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    2. The Tour started in May, not tonight...I'm just expressing my Point of view...

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    3. No, the European leg started tonight. The setlists will morph and change over the next 2 months. If not, then whine about it.

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    4. I don't live to criticize the band, Craig...and it's not "one fucking show"...I saw the cure live more than 15 times and I Will attend 4 shows in Europe...could I express my Point of view?

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    5. My point is this is only 1 show! The 1st night of this leg of the tour!

      Maybe they want to play a few, get into a certain comfort level, before breaking out some of the rare songs and surprises.

      Maybe they tried Figurehead at soundcheck and Robert felt like it wasn't quuite ready yet. Who knows?

      I'll bet many fans who were actually AT the show, not sitting behind their computer screens, loved the show.

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    6. The set lists haven't changed much since May especially the encores...

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    7. The whole tour barely started in May. You're saying they've been stagnant the entire time? GTFO.

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    8. Not stagnant but painfully pedictable other than throwing the b sides not played before, and probably the weakest song on Head On The Door, Screw, they have so many great songs, such a shame.

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    9. and weren't those b-sides part of the rarities indicated on the press release? actually, they were. Weak as you might consider screw to be, that is also a song that qualifies as described in their press release. so again, its back to those cynical and unappreciative fans.

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  8. Too many singles - what is this, a greatest hits tour how boring. Where are the rarities?, and just one new song which they have been playing since May. Sorry Robert but this is lazy. Like the previous post I have paid good money to see several shows, and hope this improves.

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    1. from www.thecure.com> "THE CURE TOUR 2016" will present Robert Smith (voice/guitar), Simon Gallup (bass), Jason Cooper (drums), Roger O'Donnell (keys) and Reeves Gabrels (guitar) as they explore 37 years of Cure songs, mixing hits, rarities, favourites and as yet unreleased tracks in a brand new stage production that promises to be one of the 'must see' shows of the year!

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      i'm still waiting...

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    2. No other band in the touring industry has fans as cynical and unappreciative, as The Cure do.

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    3. honest? all you're doing is criticizing the setlist. how fucking noble of you.

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    4. How can a three hour show ever be considered lazy on any level... ??C'mon! Of course we want to hear rare tracks and bsides all night but rememember there is also that whole reality thing going on.

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  9. Thanks for the scopes. I forgot about the ten hour time difference between here and Helsinki and ended up "tuning in" about 1-2 hours too late. I hope some of the scopes stay up for at least the next few days. I noticed they sometimes disappear once it's no longer live. Wow...what an incredible setlist and a great way to kick off the European leg! The last part of the mainset almost had me on the edge of my seat...especially the part starting with FTEOTDGS all the way to the end of mainset, and into the first encore. It was definitely far from being "soporific"! 😄 😴 I don't know why but those last five songs in the mainset seemed to go so well together, even though they may not appear to mesh lyrically and/or melodically (except maybe the 2nd/3rd songs). I personally prefer the darker, slowed down version of The Hungry Ghost (similar to the version from Jimmy Kimmel Live back in '08). I remember hearing that version from outside the closed main entrance of the studio, and immediately loved it despite my foul mood at the time. I later saw the performance on YouTube, and it was every bit as good on video as it was in person. Some of the best moments sometimes arise out of the absolute worst moments in life. In the case of Jimmy Kimmel, my friend and I were rewarded with one of the best versions of THG we'd ever heard (despite waiting in line for the better part of the day, having tickets and still being denied entrance...long story). I suppose it was worth it just to hear that one version of the song. I think some songs might sound substantially better if they were intentionally slowed down somewhat, though many would probably disagree. I would love to hear darker, more languid versions of some of the more pop-oriented songs. Imagine a dirge-like Friday?(!) I know JLH was originally a much slower song. There have been dance-oriented remixes of classic songs such as those on Mixed Up... I wonder what would happen if the tables were turned (or the turntables turned? Haha...) and the poppier or more upbeat songs were given a "dark" makeover? Maybe that could be a concept for Mixed Up part 2?

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    1. Haha...I was being a bit facetious. Mixed Up has the distinction of being the one Cure album that has collected the most dust over the years...I listened to it a total of maybe once or twice. Lovesong remixed was my favorite, which doesn't really count since it's the closest to the original compared with the others. Maybe it's time to take it out of storage, dust it off and give it another go. I still think many Cure songs would benefit from going "low and slow"...sort of like the sous vide culinary technique but applied to music. Low and slow is a versatile strategy that could also be applied to other areas in life, though some instances might venture out of PG-13 territory. 😮 RS's voice could drop a few registers and the pace adjusted for a more funereal effect. Maybe not quite as low as the deep voice heard on the (mostly forgettable) Club America, but perhaps a more Harold and Joe-esque lower register. 😛

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    2. I liked the mixed up version of A Forest, see......

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  10. There's still plenty of time for the whiners to sell their tickets to fans who want to be there regardless if the setlist is just made of Britney Spears covers or Cure b-sides.

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  11. There's still plenty of time for the whiners to sell their tickets to fans who want to be there regardless if the setlist is just made of Britney Spears covers or Cure b-sides.

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  12. This might seem boring to the people who follow the setlists. But you have to remember that they have not played in finland in over 20 years. Majority of the audience saw them for the first time tonight. I do not think that they complain about the lack of b-sides. I am not complaining. I had so much fun. See you in stockholm!

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    1. If I lived in Finland and had not seen them for twenty years I would be extremely disappointed, that is unless The Greatest Hits was my favourite album...So many great albums, great songs, but no we will stick with lovecats, let's go to bed, etc, etc, safe, boring, and predictable I'm afraid.

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    2. Good thing you don't live in fucking Finland then. Your attitude is just as boring as these setlists.

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    3. Why? because I speak the truth? I'm not the only one disappointed here mate...

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    4. you may not be the only disappointed one, but you certainly dont speak for all fans.

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    5. It's only one gig, if the next couple were like this I'd be worried though. A quick scan of what the US got does make this seem a bit tame, but first night, first night. It's not Pravda on here, and people should be able to say what they want and not toe the party line. Though sometimes the moaners...

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    6. It's only one gig, if the next couple were like this I'd be worried though. A quick scan of what the US got does make this seem a bit tame, but first night, first night. It's not Pravda on here, and people should be able to say what they want and not toe the party line. Though sometimes the moaners...

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    7. @untitled - Neither do you ! As much as it annoys people to hear anyone criticise this band in any way, it also annoys a lot of us to read the sickening idolism and sychophantic comments and the bashing some of us get for DARING to say anything negative. That behaviour was normal as teenagers...but for fuck sake we're all grown adults here

      I expressed my disappointment at the setlist last night which kicked this all off. Reading Antti's comment I can see his point...they hadnt played Finland in 20 years, so there was bound to be a lot of singles....I just hope that means that therell be lot more rare stuff in the cities that have played a lot in over the years.

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    8. I got blocked from Craig's Twitter...for voicing my opinion..so LOL!!!! PROCEED WITH CAUTION HAHAHA!!!

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    9. I got blocked from Craig's Twitter...for voicing my opinion..so LOL!!!! PROCEED WITH CAUTION HAHAHA!!!

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  13. I wish they would play some B sides there are some classics better than a few album songs, and a Britney Spears cover? at least it would be a change from hearing The Wrong Number for the hundred thousand time....

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    1. 100 years is a classic and should never leave the set in my opiniin....Wrong Number on the other hand....jesus christ, does anyone like that live? Its awful and too bloody long

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  14. In the promotion of these shows The Cure promised some new songs, changes and so on.....but it's, as Robert always sings, always the same. Two new songs were introduced (we know them already) and that's it. Mmmmmm, they promised more before than we see today.....where are the surprises?The new things? Come on Robert, you can can do better...

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    1. I agree with you totally, are the new songs that mediocre that they have only got one decent song? It probably will not even be released like A Boy I Never Knew, on the last tour....

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    2. It's very disappointing to see that they promised too much. Only to sale as much tickets as possible?
      New songs.....where are they?
      Rarities...where are they?

      Where's Robert the genius? I don't like Robert the businessman.

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    3. what sad unappreciative little twats.

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    4. At least I don't stoop to name calling, just telling it as it is, along with the view of other fans mate!

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    5. you dont speak for us all, so quit aggrandizing your statement

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    6. @unknown Either do you !

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    7. I love Finland. Everything about Finland - I respect views, visit people and downright like the Finns I have met - I feel a connection. Suomi! unless it is icehockey against Sweden.
      One finnish trait I particularly like (from the opinion corridors of
      Sweden) is that you say what you think.

      But here the lot of you are simply wrong. The concert was amazing. Feel happy to have attended. Feel free to keep the dis in a spin but then don't complain why bands don't visit your arenas.

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    1. Especially fans I'm afraid...

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    2. Not just me pal...can't you read?

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    3. i see 4 people whining....

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    4. It looks like The Cure have become exactly what Robert said they would never become.. A heritage act! If they had a new album, and they obviously do not, the set would have many new songs in it.. The well has obviously run dry. No risks are being taken and it's all too safe. It's boring and stale. The Cure are no longer essential. They've become the Rolling Stones and it is sad but not that hard to accept. I gave up on them after bloodflowers..

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    5. Unfortunately I have to agree with you on this one, however I would like to think Smithy has it in him to produce one more trip to the moon....? Oh no not that song again...aaaah!

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  16. Fascination Street
    https://youtu.be/k0a9m4LluBU

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  17. Jesus H, what a bunch of whiny fucking bitches.

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  18. Wow, I thought the US fans were harsh. I did not expect it from the Euro fans, and all this after only 1 show? The first proper "Tour Show" in over 2 months. I know a lot has happened to me in the last 2 months.

    I expected them to play a it little safe. Its not just the band, its the whole production team as well who may be a little rusty.

    I would have gladly seen this show! I'm just happy they are touring at all. Unfortunately, a Cure Tour is door to world that will one day close forever.

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    1. Rusty? Jeez they have been touring since May...Hopefully the door will close with a better set list, I have seen them 12 times, and they have always been able to come up with something different..

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    2. and by the time i see them in madrid & lisbon, it'll be 38 shows.

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    3. Hopefully they won't be rusty by then..

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    4. i'm not cynical and bitter about them touring, so.....

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    5. When I take a month off, I can barely remember my login when I return to work...just sayin

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  19. All you set list haters need to shut the fuck up and be thankful there is still one good band playing live. Go see fucking lady gaga and Kanye West if you hate this so much or go fuck off home and shit the fuck up already.

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    1. Hey! You leave Gaga out of this!

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    2. How old are you? Take a xanax, calm down

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    3. I am calm. Old enough to have been lucky enough to see the prayer tour. Thanks for asking. Is that calm enough for you.

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    4. Trying acting it then, rather than verbally abusing anyone who has a different opinion to you

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    5. Sorry for messing with your sensibilities. I know some of you still have virgin ears. Just tired of people whining about everything. I don't really get bothered with other opinions. My comments were not verbal abuse towards anyone in particular. But since you asked. I was rather expressing my disappointment towards those on here that keep posting how dull the set list is but these same folks will start complaining the cure never play or release anything. If you don't like the set list stay home. Simple. Keep your beaks shut if you hate it. Stop trashing the band you are so emphatic about and move on. Damn Keith the Xanax worked!!!! Thanks now fund something else to do.

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  20. Yes will you please stop criticising my pet band....

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    1. :-) You'd think half of these people were prepubescent hormonal teenagers...but im sure, like most of us theyre, middle aged men and women

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    2. Hey, enough of the middle aged thank you!

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    3. Ha ! Sorry, maybe its just me then !

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  21. Wow, I read it's quite tense here tonight :) Can't people express their opinions, pros or cons, without starting calling names? I can see why no peace can be possible in the Near-East, you guys, all Cure fans, are like you're going to punch each other! Really a shame! Oh well, after all it's your problem...

    Personnally I find the setlist a bit too predictable and singles-oriented, but i can understand they think it can please the audience in Helsinki where they haven't played for 20 years. Still, I suppose a few more 'rarities' like screw or 2 late or whatever a bit less often played, could have been introduced...

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  22. those rarities you listed, have already been introduced during the American Tour.
    But you know - the cynics are just ready to dismiss an entire new leg of the tour, because they're not rare enough - or not the rare song of their preference.

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    1. This first Euro date is almost identical to the Oz/NZ dates...theres been noting interesting since the end of the US dates

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    2. No! Actually the only thing different towards the end of the NA leg shows was the way they grouped songs together and that was only sometimes..and the shows got a bit shorter! ...by the time they went to Hawaii, NZ and Australia...it was regurgitated stuff....but just remember...it was new for them just like it was new for us when we got out first dose of 2 Late, This Twilight Garden. Etc.....

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  23. The first encore alone was worth the ticket price, and they sound amazing. Please stop acting like spoiled brats. Robert doesn't owe any of us anything, but we certainly owe him our respect.

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  24. Of course the cure are our favourite band and all of us respect Robert Smith as artist. The strange thing is that this is a world tour..and well it s really strange to see them playing no new songs and so many singles..i dont hate those setlist i m just a little sad cos i expected something different..but it s OK.

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  25. There is enough comment here to actually mean something ...I think the cure has become too much to too many ... muddled and suppose but they always were which made them great and loved. They are what they are now and just enjoy ... listen to standing on the beach b sides in a dark room when needed 😉

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  26. Some odd comments here. This setlist does look a little 'best of...' but even so I think it is a good setlist for a part of the world that hasn't experienced the band for 20 years. I've seen the band 5 times in the last years and i'd be fairly happy with this setlist as there are at least 6 songs I wouldn't have seen previously.

    We can judge more after the next show.

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    1. Awesome attitude!! And I think you have the clearest perspective.😉

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  27. Some odd comments here. This setlist does look a little 'best of...' but even so I think it is a good setlist for a part of the world that hasn't experienced the band for 20 years. I've seen the band 5 times in the last years and i'd be fairly happy with this setlist as there are at least 6 songs I wouldn't have seen previously.

    We can judge more after the next show.

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  28. Although there are similarities no two setlists have been exactly the same so every show has been unique in that regard. JLH is not usually played in encore and one of the few times Boys Don't Cry didn't close the show. I still consider Closedown and Last Dance as rarities since they have been so seldom played over the years and Burn is being heard live for the first time in Europe.

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  29. The show was awesome! I've been a fan for over ten years but never seen them live before because I can't afford to go see them aboard. I find it funny those who can afford lots of the cure shows complain the most in here. You probably don't know how lucky you are! I had fun, the band seemed to have fun, and I hope they will be back soon. I'll start saving now. ;-)

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    1. I think you hit the nail on the head. It might be b/c the fans who have spent the most money, especially those coming from afar, want to (understandably) get a maximum "return" on their investment....the "return" in this case would be the amazing gems that are rarely played. I am honestly a little shocked by the strong reaction to this first show. There are still many shows left on this leg, the band is probably just breaking the ice and haven't gotten into the groove just yet. I was also surprised to learn they haven't played Helsinki in two decades, especially considering its close proximity to other cities in the Baltic region. Or maybe it's because of the close proximity that it's been skipped, coupled with relatively fewer fans in the area? In any case, Helsinki fans who were disappointed with the setlist can at least find consolation in the fact that the next few shows are (almost) a hop, skip and jump away.

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  30. Personally I love the criticism of the setlist.not many people are objective. The same applies to many bands unfortunately including U2 etc. Craig is defensive of the band. Facts are facts though. The biggest problem is that Bob isn't into social media and as such is out of touch with interaction with his fans and shat they want. Including the live unreleased dvds.that combined with shows selling out so quickly means they become complacent and there's really no incentives for him to really throw in so many other fan favourites like Faith, Figurehead, Drowning man, Sismese twins,Same deep water etc

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    1. I don't get the sense he's complacent when you consider the fact they've played 80+ songs so far which shows they are throwing in as much as they can and hopefully there will be more surprises!

      Didn't think the setlist was that bad Note the heavy focus on their fan favorite Disintegration playing 9 tracks from the album. They should have threw in Same Deep Water as well though.

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    2. Robert does not interact on social media sites, but I know Roger at least does. I don't think Smithy has become complacent, just that the creativity has dried up I'm afraid. I was really hoping for a new release before the European Tour, but with just one new song ( new, or is it Christmas Without You?) it's not going to happen anytime soon. However like most fans I'm hoping they release something special, before we all leave this mortal coil, talking of which -no Caroline Crawley dedication, sob...

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    3. He dedicated Last Dance to Caroline!!!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IDStst9Mq0

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    4. Sorry I missed the start of that one, nice one Robert!

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  31. We are on our way to stockholm. The twilight sad are on the same flight. I am not dissapointed.

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    1. Great band, looking forward to seeing them live. Up there with the great Cure support acts.

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  33. I saw The Cure in Provinssi rock 1996 and i didnt like it. It was that wild mood Swing album Tour, i hate that album. Problem of The Cure is that all hit songs are from 1980s.But this Helsinki gig was better than that Provinssi 20 years ago.

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    1. Wild Mood Swings has grown on me over the years, especially want, Jupiter Crash, and Bare, some of the singles were naff though. It was certainly better than their last couple of albums!

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    2. On,i have to listen that album sometimes avain. Songs i miss was: Play for today, A Strange Day, Faith, primary, Charlotte sometimes and i wish they would Play more songs from : Kiss Me,kiss Me ,Kiss Me, less from Disintegration. Still wait that Cure in Orange dvd, in that Time ppl still dance in The Cure concerts not Just stand still like in Helsinki last night. It was ok concerts still, i like It.

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  35. As a fan for 35 years now, I would love if if they played more songs from the Faith, pornography era. Especially as I wasn't fortunate to be able to get tickets for any of the trilogy shows. Yes Disintegration is a fan favourite, but a lot of the sets on this tour have been singles orientated ( 19 played in Helsinki), which after 8 years since the last tour, just reeks of a cash in I'm afraid. I really hope they introduce some of the B side songs they played in North America, and more excellent new songs by the time they reach the UK, however I have my doubts...only The Cure could go on a World Tour without an new album to promote.
    I could go on as well about only two UK venues, with a lot of fans missing out, but that would be starting another argument!

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  36. I'm a bit shocked with the negative reaction. I think they'll bring out the rare stuff when they're playing multiple nights at the same venue but, as people have pointed out, if they haven't played somewhere in a long, long time, they're going to play the better known songs.

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    1. I'm glad they chose not to play Birmingham then, it's been 20 years...

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    2. You know what? I'm realising that they have shitty tour itineraries....how the fuck do you skip Helsinki when you play Denmark Sweden and Norway...Finland rounds out the Scandinavian countries...Jesus and in over 20 yrs?!!!! WTF!!! Birmingham they're a British band for fuck's sake?! Depeche Mode do not do this....and I hate those comparisons because though I love both bands..the Cure is so much better, more original, and they mean more to me even if their tours are lopsided

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    3. Some band like u-2 and the Cure have play only 4 time in Finland, i think Finland is too small and far away to these rock stars and they like to go to Sweden. Some small bands like Iron Maiden has play 25 times and Metallica 16 times in Finland =)

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    4. u2 and the Cure has play only 4 times in Finland, i think Finland is too small and far away for these big rock stars and they like to go to Sweden of Paris. Some small band like Iron Maiden has play 25 times and Metallica has play 16 times in Finland. I havent seen Metallica or Iron Maiden in live ,but i have seen u2 and the Cure now 2 times both here in Finland.

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  37. it's more like they were promoting a greatest hits.

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    1. Yep Smithy doing the rag doll dance during Let's go to bed, in his 50's is looking a bit dodgy now...

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    2. Please put that word to rest.....

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  38. Why can't someone make it their mission to get hold of management. ..If they have...or crew and demand a reason why the dvds haven't been released. ....

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  39. Review from Kimmo:

    Very long show. There were however no big surprises and to my taste, quite a number of songs were played from Disintegration. Of my wish list, I was really missing songs like Charlotte Sometimes and perhaps some songs from WMS. Robert and Roger seemed to be in a very good mood, perhaps as a result of some days off in Helsinki. Robert was struggling to convince the audience of his new Finnish vocabulary but he had forgotten most of it, he said, due to Finnish beer drunken while learning the words. Simon was wearing Iron Maiden T-shirt. Maybe he also knows how popular Iron Maiden was here.

    The quality of sound was not as good as before.They seem to play loud and rough, and for instance the songs like Just Like Heaven and Night like this sounded thick and heavy.

    Best moments: Push, Lullaby (condensated moment), the beginning of Shake dog Shake and the end of Wrong number with Gabrel's solo.

    Hope to see them again in Finland. They seem to like being here. It was a real Friday atmosphere. However, our audience was cool and quiet especially compared to the audience with I saw them last time- Antwerpen 2008.

    Last observations I could not really hear keyboards. Why? Robert was carrying guitar even if not playing except during Last Dance.

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    1. Simon Gallup and his metal t-shirts is fucking bollocks!!! Get over it already.

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  40. Somewhat ironically, it's The Internet with this very Site, setlist.fm etc that spoils The experience. We know every setlist and See The patterns. I think they vary it more than on other Tours. There is a kmkmkm, a Desintegration and a wish Heavy Set list Variant afaik. So from show to show the difference Can be quite Great. But with more oversight The patterns are clear. Of course, they would Not make The setlist at random.

    And having yt Videos and periscope from The Shows, it's as if We are there. New Songs like iwnbts aren't new anymore because We Can Listen to them as much as We want to.

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  41. What i am dissappointed about is that there are no Interviews. We don't know about Plans or difficulties following them. New Album, live DVDs etc. I ve hoped that rs would give some insights. Even if there will be no new Material in near Future them explain why...

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    1. Absolutely my man!There is no other band who have not released old live material on dvd let alone new stuff. Most bands are interactive on social media.let me put it to u guys who dislike the set list criticism - if the band played a Reflections style show out if surprise do u really think the audience would be disappointed? Never!those shows sold old just like any others.thats the problem with Bob in that because shows are always sold out way in advance there is no pressure to do anything interesting

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    2. Break the silence please Smithy!!!

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    3. I actually do think people would be disappointed if they pulled a surprise reflections. Not the hardcore of course, but most attendees go to these shows purely to hear the hits. I remember loving the 2014 Apollo shows but heard at least 5 people say they were upset that Friday I'm In Love wasn't played. You are a very naive if you think most ticket holder want to hear faith all the way through, most of them won't know a single song!

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    4. I agree with the point about interviews though. It really says something when Lol's has had most press than the Cure's tour.

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  42. Sad, haters, twats, moaners...just for expressing an opinion...relax and take it easy as someone once told...

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  43. ..also cos the tickets price this time is about 100

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  44. The least Robert could do is to be released 2 singles with 6-8 new songs like Massive Attack in 2016. He has many songs ready.
    It is unacceptable what is done for the last years. Just only live show??
    No Robert. You are retired.
    Better way studio albums with few live shows....Reverst

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    1. He may advice you to start play your own music and do the right thing.

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    2. Robert admitted that he was wrong about 4:13D. He wanted double cd but....
      He is artist, he make amazing music but in other things (out of music) he make wrong choices. Thats all.

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    3. R.Smith is human, just like me and you. I agree that sometimes he makes bad choice..especially in the last years..i think i'm simply not attempting this tour, if he wants to play this kind of setlist..But it's ok. It's just life.

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  45. come on, go to a morrissey concert and you will be truly dissapointed,

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    1. No shit guys...and you're right with about a 75 minute shorter show

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    2. I'd rather have my eyes poked out with hot irons thank you.

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  46. Very few bands play close to 3 hrs, one could argue 3 hrs spent with the cure is never time wasted. On an unrelated note, it's insane 4:13 dream came out 8 years ago!!!

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    1. I can't believe they will play for 3 hours at venues with consecutive nights, more like 2 1-2 as long as they cut out some of the poppy stuff that's OK.

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  47. I'm a bit shocked @ the negativity as well. When they came on stage @ MSG and I heard the opening notes of plainsong I honestly got choked up and teary eyed as it was the 1st time I was seeing them in 4.5 years

    Saw all 3 shows @ MSG in June and that still wasn't enough: booked it down to Maryland to see them again and while the show was almost the same as the 2nd show I saw @ MSG I didn't care a whit.

    To be able to see a band LIVE that I have loved for 30 years is amazing to me. Were there more obscure songs I wanted to hear that I didn't? OF COURSE but that did nothing to take away from my gratitude and joy.

    I know and accept that the great majority of people who go to the shows WANT to hear Just Like Heaven and Close To Me, etc.

    You can of course complain if you like but anyone who thinks Robert is selling out is out of their minds - he could've made a career out of doing pop stuff and actually been a much wealthier man.

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    1. That's cool AFHAT...unfortunately the msg shows were nothing out of the ordinary not were they spectacular by that point...they had already pulled out all the stops by the time they got to NY

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    2. There were certainly setlists that I liked better but hearing Twilight Garden live and getting one of the rare performances of Pornography and being one of a handful of shows to get A Strange Day was would've been enough for me but when they broke out banafishbones I damned near lost my mind.

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  48. Some thoughts about the European Leg expectations: http://bit.ly/2e2OAMh

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  49. After end of the show, Cocteau Twins were are perfect!
    https://youtu.be/F-C6KzF3c9k

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  50. The Cure live in Helsinki 2016 - full show (part 1 of 2)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFJwVB3F9lw

    The Cure live in Helsinki 2016 - full show (part 2 of 2)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3uC8CzR78w

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  51. Excellent concert, really enjoyed it. The band sounded great and Robert sang superbly. Some minor sound issues, keys were absent at times or very low in the mix.

    Fantastic evening, I have no idea why someone would talk negatively about it.

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  52. And yes, loved the fact that there was a lot of music by the Cocteau Twins before and after the gig.

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  53. A LOT GOES INTO PLANNING SETLISTS. YOU GET WHAT YOU GET. MARK MY WORDS, THIS IS THE LAST WORLD TOUR FOR THE CURE

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  54. How about everyone just be happy they are touring because they don't have to ! 3 hours worth of high quality music and still get frickin whiners. Sounds like a lot of miserable folks to me !!

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  55. This is to all the complainers. It disgusts me to no end that so many "fans" have such negative opinions ! I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinions but come on some comments are down right selfish bullshit ! I think The Cure has given us so much beautiful music , just look at their huge musical catalog , that if they never did another new song who the frick cares . I would love to hear any song they chose to perform for us and I mean any song ! Hell , they don't need the money , ever thought maybe they're doing it for the fans and because they love what they do. As we grow older we all get set in our daily boring ass lives and forget what it's like to have fun. We're becoming old complaining ass old folks is all! Why don't y'all Get the sticks out of yalls asses and realize the gift that we have been given by being able to witness one of the greatest bands of all times ! Let's not forget that Rob's voice sounds perfect and the band sounds incredible and oh yeah , playing for 3 hours ! Have y'all forgotten to be appreciative or has the sticks up y'all asses got lodged up too far ! So sick of this selfish unappreciative rude society of today !

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    1. It is expected that many fans disappointed. Last album was not so good and RS left the time go by. We all remember the emotion when caught in hands The Cure new album. It was amazing and we lost it. If someone discover Cure music or is a new fan all shows is like something new. But we must see and the other side many fans who expecting a great new album. Its natural.

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