At their show at Red Rocks last night, Michael Stipe of R.E.M. gave a shout-out to The Cure:
"There's this bit at the end of the show where Stipe points out people in the audience with shirts he likes. He pointed out a bunch of Obama shirts, then he said, "Hey you - put your shirt back on!" Then after a short pause, he said, "I like The Cure too!" (The guy's shirt was obviously a Cure shirt.)"
(Thanks V)
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It's the End of the World - As We Know It.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Stipe and Smith can trade coiffure tips - Stipe can wear a Robert Smith wig onstage and Smith can shave his head in honor of Stipe.
No?
"Smith can shave his head"
ReplyDeleteThat part is alright, clockwise. ;)
Otherwise, if they are to go in a mutual homage thing, then maybe The Cure can play "It´s the end of the road and we should know it" while REM should have a go at "There is no riff".
:-D :-D
Clockwise: Maybe Robert can be Michael's new crush with eyeliner, too!
ReplyDeleteoooh, v, bad one! but i like bad humor. keep 'em comin' cuz i'm too tired to think straight. damn chat kept me up til all hours then i had to get up early cuz workers are in my bro's condo. booooo workers!
ReplyDeleteClockwise: It's about all I can muster at the mo' - I'm too tired to think straight, too. I had to get up early cuz I had to go to work. Wtf is up with that?? ;)
ReplyDeletescrew work. so glad i'm a teacher with summer's off, or i wouldn't be able to exist in the mostly sane manner that i do. what do you do, v?
ReplyDeleteThread's dead baby..thread's dead.
ReplyDeleteperfect.murder: Great, now I want blueberry pancakes!
ReplyDeleteClockwise: I am an IT flunkie who specializes in database development. Way to use my Russian degree, eh? ;) I wanted to be a teacher for a long time. I was going to specialize in English and possibly ESL, but I never had the chance to go back to school and to get the few credits I needed to be eligible to teach in Florida. Do you find it to be a rewarding profession?
ReplyDeleteClockwise: Oh yeah, and what subject(s) do you teach and at what level? (If I may ask...)
ReplyDeletev, i teach english and esl, actually.
ReplyDeleteyes, it's very rewarding, but also very frustrating. if it weren't for the government interferring with crap like NCLB, it would be much much much better. and if parents instilled some discipline into their brats, er, kids, it would be better too.
but of course it is rewarding, very much so. however, i can prolly only last 10-15 years - already been doing it for 5.5.
before i taught high school, i taught community college. i enjoyed that but not as much. i also assisted in montessori (little kids) and 8th grade classrooms. DO NOT TEACH EIGHT GRADERS.
before that, i was a writer/editor at technical publications. booooooooooooooring.
IT flunkie eh? i could never do that. you must be talented.
i teach 9th-12th grade. the 11th and 12th graders are cool, but the 9th and 10th graders are difficult to deal with. gotta find your inner witch - which for me ain't hard to do, but i don't enjoy being that way one bit. i like having fun with the kids, and so when they're good, it's a blast. too much fun, sometimes! my fondest memory of the past year is having my low-level ESL students give me imperative commands - they had me sprinting down the halls and crawling on the floor. good times those.
ReplyDeleteClockwise: I can imagine that it must be frustrating to have to deal with things like NCLB and standardized testing and the like. I found that to be so stifling creatively when I was in high school as a student - truly, I think it broke my creative writing spirit. In middle school and early high school I wrote prolifically as a hobby; now I can barely write a haiku! Sucks! Anyway, I can imagine you being an awesome English teacher - much better than the stuffy old marms I had, whose idea of "creative writing" was writing a formal essay! Bah! Can I be in your class next year? ;)
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you find it to be rewarding, though. However, I can understand - and think it's good - that you know you have a limit after which you won't be able to do it anymore. :)
Talented? Maybe. But this to me is just a job... I do love working with data and database systems, but I'm not passionate about the context I use it in. When I first went off to college, my declared major was music (voice), and if I couldn't be a musician I wanted to be a writer. Sometimes I sit in my cubicle and wonder what the hell happened... :D Ah well...
"my fondest memory of the past year is having my low-level ESL students give me imperative commands - they had me sprinting down the halls and crawling on the floor. good times those. "
ReplyDeleteThat is freakin' awesome. :) And I'm sure they will remember those times quite fondly as well.
"my fondest memory of the past year is having my low-level ESL students give me imperative commands"
ReplyDeleteWell, clockwise, if that really is your kind of thing, then, there´s no problem, we can do it here to...
Repeat after me RIGHT NOW:
DISINTEGRATION IS WAY BETTER THAN BLOODFLOWERS!
:)
Here we go again. :)
ReplyDeleteClockwise: By the way, I think it's hilarious how you've been calling Robert "Bobby" lately. I lol'ed about that on the way to work this morning. :D
ReplyDeleterevolt: you must be one of my 9th graders. ;-)
ReplyDeletev: that's too bad that the standardized testing crushed your creative spirit. that is exactly what most teachers DONT want to happen - but we have no control over the government-imposed tests. it truly truly SUCKS and we are doing entire generations of kids a tragic disservice by emphasizing the tests so much. not to mention that they are poorly conceived and in no way test the true abilities of students. we need alternate modes of student and teacher accountability - creative ways to get kids and schools "prove" their worth. of course, we prove it every day by working our collective asses off, but since the government has programmed the public to think that most teachers are lazy idiots and that schools are abject failures, we have to do something to counter that malicious misperception.
mark my words, though: NCLB is a vicious means to set public schools up for failure so that private education can rein supreme, and the poor and ever-shrinking middle class can wallow in misery. this country is becoming such a cesspool of rich versus poor it makes me sick.
of course, this bitter tirade should probably be reserved for elsewhere, but i can never resist the chance to rant against the government. :-)
v, you're only 30, for chrissakes - i had many career changes before i settled into teaching. there's always time to go back to school and pursue your dreams. :-)
as for bobby boy, he sho' be silly last nite, no? I am hoping to catch some vids of his craziness - the mic in the audience and the spoken word bit before play for today sound classic!
ps sorry for any typos or misspellings. just cuz i'm an english teach don't mean i am perfect grammatically or otherwise.
ReplyDeletereign supreme is what i think i meant. rein has a diff connotation.
"ps sorry for any typos or misspellings. just cuz i'm an english teach don't mean i am perfect"
ReplyDeleteIt´s OK, clockwise, we had already kind of concluded that after you stated your opinion about "Bloodflowers"... ;-)
Clockwise: It's my own fault for being so easy to crush! Lol. I just got burned out in high school because I took so many AP classes and we had to write so many formulaic essays that I got brainwashed into writing in a way that the people who would be grading those handful of essays that I would be writing at the end of my senior year would deem worthy of a "5". I became so analytical in my writing that I could no longer write freely. I don't think I was an outstanding creative writer, but I wrote so much and so easily that it was a great release for me. Once I got to college, I was totally stifled, and I ended up taking Freshman English anyway (even though my AP scores got me credit), so I wonder in the end if the AP tests were even worthwhile. Whatevs.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with your statements about NCLB and the things that the gubmint does to widen the gap between the rich and the poor. It makes me feel ill as well to see this disgusting abuse of power being used to stifle creativity and innovation, all in the name of greed greed greed. Ugh. I hope that whatever happens in November will bring about some change in that department, but I, like you, don't want to bring the ugly world of politics here, where it is decidedly OT. :)
And yes, I do plan to change careers one day. Right now there are some things out of my control that are kind of stopping that from happening, and then there's the whole issue of me wanting to be something different every week (this week it's a ballerina, last week a fireman, maybe next week i'll wanna be an astronaut when I grow up!). But despite sounding totally defeatist in my previous comment, I do have hope and drive and know that I can and will change things for myself as soon as I can. :) That was my problem in college - I had no idea that my fate was in my own hands. I really thought that everything that happened was the result of being in the "right place at the right time" by chance; now I know that I have control over where I go in life and plan to take the reins. :D (Had to throw that word in there!)
Speaking of being OT...:D haha.
revolt: You never miss an opportunity, do ya? :)
ReplyDeletehey revolt when you're done trying to bait me into the same old tired argument, we could prolly have a decent chat about "Philosophy; Psychology; Literature; Cinema; Painting; Life."
ReplyDeleteor are you cantankerous in those areas as well? ;-)
clockwise, I don't fault teachers most of the time. Sure, sometimes they're at fault, and I know that I've had a few bad ones, but the main problems are the system itself and parents. The way that society is run now is depressing. I'm only 30, and I do not have a hopeful outlook for this nation nor the world as a whole.
ReplyDeletev, i am sure you will get along fabulously - you sound witty, intelligent, and level-headed! seriously, though, one DOES have to take the reins into her own hands or we will wallow in complacency forever more. i learned that the hard way after being mired in a career that was "going nowhere." i hated being in a cubicle all day, and at least with teaching i am able to interact with people and hopefully make a positive dent somehow. of course, teaching is ALL about interaction and sometimes that can be draining, but anyway. :-)
ReplyDeletebbl peeps. i have to go eat lunch and color my hair and take a nap.
i didn't realize phoenix was tonite - looks like i may be around for the chat after all, although i'll probs fall asleep.
bye v - we can chat again soon via e-mail about all this cuz i find you very interesting! :-D
shawn, you are so correct - it's the system. a true travesty. i don't have tons of hope as well, but we gotta keep the faith somehow - isn't that what bobby boy is saying? of course, i hate the religious connotations of the word faith, and i hate the trite trendy cliched way that most people use the word, but anyway. somehow bobby is able to elevate the word/concept to a more metaphysical level.
ReplyDeleteNOTHING LEFT BUT FAITH! Happy Birthday Simon.
Clockwise: Enjoy! Glad you'll be around for the show after all! :) And also, way to through "Going Nowhere" in there - now our conversation is no longer off topic! Woo hoo!
ReplyDeleteFeel free to email me any time - I'd love to continue chatting with ya!
Now go get that hair dyed! (Maybe your students will use that imperative on you next year! ;) )
"NOTHING LEFT BUT FAITH! Happy Birthday Simon."
ReplyDeleteOh noes - you had to say that!!! *chin quivering*
Michael Stipe, Cure fan was indeed a non starter of a thread :)
ReplyDeleteI have 4th Row seats to see REM next Wednesday....maybe I should wear my Cure Shirt...
ReplyDelete"hey revolt when you're done trying to bait me into the same old tired argument, we could prolly have a decent chat about "Philosophy; Psychology; Literature; Cinema; Painting; Life.""
ReplyDeleteYou have been checking me out, have you? ;)
Well, that´s a whole universe of topics for conversation, isn't it? Maybe some of it will pop up in Cure-related threads, who knows?
Anyway, I don't want to give you a wrong impression, it's not like chatting is my favourite activity or anything. :)
"i learned that the hard way after being mired in a career that was "going nowhere.""
ReplyDeleteHah! I noticed you used "going nowhere" in a negative context here... Maybe you´re getting wiser, after all. ;)
hey v! did the national play for how long?
ReplyDeleteAntti: The National did play, but unfortunately I missed them because the person I went with had something come up at the last minute and we couldn't leave as early as we'd planned. But something on an R.E.M. fansite I found said they played a 45 minute set in Vancouver (I think), so I'd guess they played about the same in Denver! :)
ReplyDelete45 mins, that's pretty good for the first band. i'm really looking forward to the rem show at msg. i saw the national in auckland in january and they were fantastic. can't wait! and the show will be kind of a warm up for the two cure shows;)
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