"I was hoping that you and the Cure fan community could aide me with an putting together a magazine article piece for my independent publication Meuse Magazine. I am wanting to compile a piece based around why The Same Deep Water As You is to many Cure fans considered to be the best song ever written.
The song definitely had a profound effect on me when I first heard it back in '89, and it still does today. It's been in more recent years that I've really come to notice that alot of fans across the board feel the exact same way about this particular song. and I find it really intriguing and want to delve into more detail behind why this may be.
I'm thinking that including a breakdown about the anatomy of the song on the technical side may be interesting and then I'd like to include personal accounts from Cure fans regarding the song, how it affects them and what is it about the song that they think makes it so perfect. I'm also open to including artwork people may have that was potential inspired by the song, or if people would like to create something new especially for the article piece that would be lovely as well. Would love to know your thoughts and appreciate your help in anyway. Persons interested in contributing can send an email to: meusemag(at)gmail(dot)com" (Thanks Trace')
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DeleteBest Lovesong ever! Don't understand people saying this song is sad or depressive. It's none of that. It's a pure masterpiece that doesn't glorify the manic side of love but describes it's melancholic side. Another song of that kind is Underneath the stars. Same melancholia in both music and lyrics. Just that Same Deep Water is more a rainy autumn night shared with your love while UTS is a beautiful summer night.
ReplyDeleteI don't know many Cure fans who think this is even the best song on Dirgeintegration. A far better song to discuss would be Faith. That is the song that always generates far more emotion.
ReplyDeleteThat's not what this is about. If you don't like the song, why comment? This is a story about why fans love this song so much. And believe me, there are many of us who do.
DeleteI wasn't saying it was a bad song, I was just saying that there are more Cure songs held in greater reverence than TSDWAY. I know a lot of people love this song, but Faith is considered by more to be "considered as the greatest song ever written"
DeleteDo I detect a poll? :)
I think TSDWAY is a song that perfectly embodies what the Cure do best. It's a long, flowing song that takes its time to slowly build layer upon musical layer, gradually dragging you into a strangely melancholic state of mind and not letting go until you're fully submerged.
ReplyDeleteRobert's soft and emotional vocals add the final layer to the song, telling an impressionistic tale of love that is neither happy nor sad, one that everyone can relate to and that can be interpreted in endless different ways. At the same time, the vocals are subtle and restrained, never dominating the song, always letting the music speak first.
After Robert has sung all the words that need to be said, the song is still far from finished; it keeps on moving forward, adding new musical elements, until finally it slowly starts dwindling down, leaving only a few small sounds in the end.
The song is an emotional journey in every imaginable way. In the space of nine minutes, it reminds you what life was once like, what it is like, what it could have been like and what it might still be like.
TSDWAY is also a fantastic example of one specific trait of the Cure's music: with other bands, you always wish the really pretty parts would last just a little bit longer. With The Cure, the beautiful parts do last longer, but never so long as to wear out their welcome.
Beautifully said. Thank you.
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DeleteWell said, Nico!
ReplyDeleteemail sent about an hour ago, let me know if you got it!
ReplyDeletejust re-find the chords of the bassline! it makes me young again!!! Simon is the center of this song, very long and hard to keep the pick in my hand! beautiful....
ReplyDelete...as a 40 year old, I love this song so much. The Dallas live alternative version is my favourite. It's just the most uplifting yet tragic journey of emotions that both destroy you and bring the most amazing joy.
ReplyDeleteOn top of that you then get the most beautiful plucked cure guitarist builds and builds and weaves thought provocking emotions
very nicely stated
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ReplyDeleteWell said, nico!
ReplyDeleteAND WE SHALL BE TOGETHER
ReplyDeleteMany artists love when the follower interprets their work. An artist will often be purposely vague so that an unlimited number of meanings can be derived from their work. Music is no different, and for THE CURE’s Robert Smith, his lyrics often drift deep into the dreamy imaginations of his listeners.
THE SAME DEEP WATER AS YOU has always fascinated this follower. Other than the fact that Simon Gallup, THE CURE’s long-time bass player, came up with the bass line while watching TV one evening in his living room, I have not learned of any details surrounding the inception, influence or artist’s meaning of the song.
I only have mine.
After watching TRILOGY, with its point-of-view camera directly in front of Smith’s face – along with the wavy special effects inserted every so often – did I cement what I had always thought this song was about: a double suicide.
THE SAME DEEP WATER AS YOU is a first-person narrative (that Smith takes part of as he sings) about a couple walking into a lake never to return. Their intent is to drown together and love forever.
KISS ME GOODBYE, PUSHING OUT BEFORE I SLEEP
CAN’T YOU SEE I TRY, SWIMMING THE SAME DEEP WATER AS YOU IS HARD
In the opening words Smith describes their walk into the water and their push off from the banks.
“…BOW YOUR HEAD AND JOIN WITH ME”
FACED PUSH DEEP, REFLECTIONS MEET…
Here Smith describes his partner lovingly guiding him as their hand pushes his head below the water. Smith’s eyes watch as his face meets the water – breaking the mirrored reflection. Smith goes on to describe their deep descent – his lover pushing him deeper as their feet kick ripples into the water.
SOFTLY BREAKS THE MIRROR SWEET, “AND WE SHALL BE TOGETHER.”
The couple continues their descent into eternity. Smith describes the deep, numbing blackness, and his fading thoughts and visions. He ends with an affirmation of eternal love.
And we shall be together…
Wow I thought I was the only one on this planet to be profoundly touched and so in love with this master piece. It's been more Than 20 Years I still listen to Same Deep Water and The feelings are so powerfull. Thank you all for making this song as spécial as it always as been to me!
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