Saturday, September 13, 2008

Robert is pissed off!

And rightfully so! Read his letter to the Mighty U at the official site. Robert rocks!

210 comments:

  1. Like I said in the other Topic. Robert needs to get as far away from the Shitey U as possible.

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  2. *sniff*
    he's always looking out for us.
    i feel so well taken care of. :)

    fuck the U!
    sign to sub-pop!

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  4. over 30 years in the music business. robert needs to create his own label, under a bigger/better label than Universal and then sign his own acts. then he can end The Cure and be a record producer just like Jay-Z. :p

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  5. Robert infinitely rocks, and I don't care if that is a sychophantic statement! FUCK TMU!!!!!!! The Cure is outrageously better than those corporate scum!

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  6. yes, andy, even better. robert, begin your own record label so you needn't deal with this nonsense!
    how about Night Nurse? ;D

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  7. I can still get on there fine Vikk :S.

    I don't know if Robert needs to get his own Label but he really needs to change thats a given.

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  8. http://www.thecure.com/default.asp cannot be displayed

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  9. can anybody copy and paste what RS wrote?

    by the way I couldn't find anywhere a copy of the EP in Dublin, dammit!

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  10. I can´t view the site either. Server too busy. I guess all universal employers are reading it and are now planning the next step in annoying us all. I´m not buying another universal recording after Dream 4:13. :)

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  11. Still working for me. But just in case it's down for a while, here's the post from RS:

    ITUNES UK HYPNAGOGIC NONSENSE

    9/12/2008 7:15:36 PM - by CURE:ROBERT

    PLEASE DONT BUY HYPNAGOGIC STATES EP FROM ITUNES FOR £7.99

    IT IS ABSURD!

    TMU HAS MANAGED TO FUCK THIS UP TO ANOTHER LEVEL!

    MY EMAIL TO THEM TODAY IS BELOW
    ITS EASIER THAN WRITING IT OUT AGAIN NICELY...
    (THOSE OFFENDED BY COLOURFUL LANGUAGE LOOK AWAY NOW)

    >

    DEAR...

    I FUCKING DESPAIR
    AGAIN

    HYPNAGOGIC STATES EP IS NOW UP ON UK ITUNES...

    5 TRACKS FOR £7.99?
    FOR FUCKS SAKE!

    AND THE PACKAGE IS COMPLETEY MISSING THE EXTRA BONUS TRACK (65DOS ALT REMIX OF "THE ONLY ONE")

    SO
    YOU CAN BUY THE FOUR REMIXES BY 30STM/AFI/MCR/FOB INDIVIDUALLY FOR 79P EACH...

    BUT YOU ONLY GET THE 65DOS "EXPLODING HEAD SYNDROME" REMIX OF ALL FOUR SINGLES IF YOU PAY £7.99 FOR "THE ALBUM"...

    IE YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO PAY £4.83 FOR THE 65DOS REMIX... !!!
    WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO PAY THIS AND NOT FEEL TOTALLY RIPPED OFF?

    IT'S NOT A FUCKING ALBUM!
    IT'S A 5 TRACK EP
    AND YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GET AN EXTRA FREE TRACK (THE 65DOS REMIX OF "THE ONLY ONE") IF YOU BUY IT AS A 5 TRACK EP
    AND ITS SUPPOSED TO COST LESS IF YOU BUY IT AS A 5 TRACK EP THAN IF YOU BUY THE 5 TRACKS INDIVIDUALLY...

    THAT IS WHAT WAS AGREED

    THIS IS SO TOTALLY WRONG
    I REALLY DO FUCKING DESPAIR

    WHY IS IT SO INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO GET ANYTHING DONE RIGHT?

    PLEASE FIX THIS NOW

    >

    I AM POSTING THIS AS I FEEL

    UPSET!

    ANYWAY
    PLEASE ONLY BUY THIS 5 TRACK EP FROM ITUNES WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE FOR AROUND £4.00 OR LESS AND YOU GET THE FREE 65DOS T.O.O REMIX - IT'S FAB AND THE MONEY (WELL - OUR SHARE OF IT!) IS GOING TO A GOOD CAUSE...

    THIS GOES FOR ANY OTHER ITUNES STORES AROUND THE WORLD

    LIKE JAPAN...

    ONWARDS...
    RSX

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  12. I can still get on the offical website. No problem here. Although I expect it will go down in a few hours and Roberts Post to be... erm.... altered

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  13. Thanks Craig, you´re the best! And Roberts post kicks universals ass all the way to the moon :)

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  14. and obviously Universal is keeping their share of the money, as Bob implies. bet he wishes he stuck with Elektra right about now.

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  15. this might be old news but "please come home" is online...you have to et the links yourself as per craigs wishes,but doesn't take a genius to find it

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  16. Robert kick ass!

    that's clear Universal is keeping their shares!

    "I FUCKING DESPAIR
    AGAIN"

    Bob is upsaet with the Universal nonsense (e.g. all the singles poorly availebel in the shops and so on..)

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  17. It's unclear if the "please come home" thats online is from the 2004 recordings or the new ones.

    Either way it's a fucking ace song.

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  18. About Please Come Home.
    It's from the 2004 session.
    So, not a new version..
    Good climax, strong chorus and this litlle solo of..?
    Nothing, but works very well.
    Very emotional..reminds me a bit Your God is Fear mixed with Another Day..
    it's a shame that the lyrics are so bad..but anyway he sings them very powerful.

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  19. Thanks for posting it, Craig. I can't get in to thecure.com, it appears to be down at the moment. Poor Robert even when he tries to do something right it gets fucked up by other people (TMU).

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  20. If it's from the 2004 sessions then I suspect it will be changed a fair bit if its released on the new album.

    Looks like (or should that be sounds like) ABINK has gone through some changes since 2004 too.

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  21. Ha! Now I can't get on the Offical Site too. Something is up. Too much of a coincidence for the website to go down a few hours after his rightful outburst.

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  22. well at least if TMU is fucking with the official site in order to erase his vitriolic words, we have them preserved here!

    this is kinda fun, actually... although i do despair along with RSX.

    THE CURE IS BETTER THAN THIS CORPORATE CRAP!!

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  23. Please come home gives me goosebumps.

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  24. Please Come Home... vinyl rip? Very interesting. This is one of three, and I know the person who leaked it has the others too. Anyone care to share?

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  25. I can access the Hynpagogic States sample at thecure.com but nothing else...

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  26. The Please Come Home leak originated over on MFC, if I'm not mistaken. Oh the coincidences....

    And a few minutes ago I could still get into the official. But no more.

    I have to wonder if Please Come Home leaking isn't a Robert thing? Maybe a sign it won't be making the new album?

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  27. i can access the whole thecure.com site with no problem

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  28. I posted this over on the official, as a kind of plea to Robert.

    Robert,

    The Cure is not a band that benefits from being on a major label. If you signed with a smaller indie label like Merge or Matador, you would be the big band on the label and they would give you the promotion and treatment that a band with your history and track record deserve. Take a note from Sonic Youth, who just left The Mighty U for a deal with Matador, and follow a similar course. I feel that The Cure, and their fans would benefit as a whole.

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  29. i wonder if "please come home" Boy i never knew and other outtakes make it on the album if perry or roger get credit or will robert tweak it enough to where they are not credited.

    on another note thats a dick move ny Universal...at this point if i was robert i would pull a trent and tell people to steal the album (robert has plenty of money and i believe for him it isn't about the money otherwise we would all be doing the hansa)

    or pull a smashing pumpkins and release a "second album free online...

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  30. where please come home has been linked?

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  31. comic: i fully agree. the cure need to pull out of a major labor ASAP and pursue an indie one. they are, after all, the "overlords" of the alternative scene (as one mag put it), and being with TMU taints their credibility. rsx needs to stop worrying about gargantuan popularity and realize that they will ALWAYS have a rabid fanbase and will also ALWAYS appeal to a wider audience... and yet they will NEVER pull in the thunderous masses as they once did, and there is NOTHING wrong with that, because the cure continue to make kick-ass fucking music - i don't care what ANYONE says! :-)

    get thee the fuck away from TMU, RSX!!

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  32. maslindo- i dont think people are allowed to tell you that here on COF, but i have it and i could send you the link somewhere else if you want, but im afraid i dont know for certain that by doing that it might affect COF..

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  33. http://www.zona-musical.com/postt100476.html

    not released, not official.. then we can download :)

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  34. Since the song is not commercially available, it should be ok to post the links. I'm assuming it's the version from The Cure sessions, and not the new one.

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  35. can't understand the lyrics, really, but love the music.

    desperation. it's very sexy.
    when robert does desperation anyhow.

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  36. I look out the window watching the world go round.
    I wonder where you are now. I wish you were here now.
    Waiting at the window I watch the rain come down.
    Wondering what to do now. Wishing you were here now.

    I don’t understand why you couldn’t stay.
    I don’t understand why you went away.
    I don’t understand why you wouldn’t say.
    I only know I need you now to…

    Please, come back to me.
    Please, come home.
    Please, come back to me.
    Don’t leave me here alone.
    Knocked down here on my own…

    I watch out the window whispering hopeless words.
    I won’t let you go now. I want you here now.
    Watching out the window, whisper a helpless world.
    Pulling me back now. Wanting you here now.

    I don’t understand why you couldn’t stay.
    I don’t understand why you went away.
    I don’t understand why you wouldn’t say.
    I only know I need you now to…

    Please, come back to me.
    Please, come home.
    Please, come back to me.
    Don’t leave me here alone.
    Don’t leave me on my own.
    Don’t leave me here alone.
    Knocked down here on my own…

    Still I wait at the window watching the world go round.
    I wonder where you are now.
    Please, come home…

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  37. i tried to decipher the lyrics and mine where a bit different from rodrigo's atempt.. but i love the song! really really love it

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  38. its the version from the sessions..



    thanks to the unknown guy who uploaded it by the way..



    its a shame that they dont have keyboards now, this kind of songs really needs them at the background..

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  39. i agree, the keyboards here are kinda hidden sometimes but they are beautiful, god im inlove with this song

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  40. is there a version of ABINK from the The Cure Sessions?? (available)??

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  41. carlos its not my attempt, this lyrics have a long time going trhu the net, maybe since Ross Robinson talked about the existance of Please come home, A boy i never knew and strum

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  42. Yeah, I posted the lyrics on the old COF site. Should be in the Aug. 06 news archives, along with Strum and ABINK. When I posted them, RS said they were not entirely correct, so there were probably some changes made to them.

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  43. ooh ok ok thanks for clearing that up, i tried it beacuse i never thought there would be any lyrics of it floating around.. but if theres a recording it's no surprise that the lyrics are somewhere in ciberspace

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  44. so, theres lyrics but no recording on the net? or theres both?? :O

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  45. Why assume that that version of Please Come Home is from 2004? What are the grounds for assuming that?

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  46. Because there are 3 tracks from those sessions that have been floating around for two years now.
    Plus, there are keyboards in this version, and they are buried in the mix. A true signature of the Cure sessions! : )

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  47. ooh so could anyone post the links to those recordings please? (strum and ABINK) if its not to much to ask:)

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  48. I can´t access to the news page of the official site.It´s shut down.
    This is happening from Mexico City.

    Just the front page, but the preview doesn´t download.


    I´m guessing if this failure has to do with the Robert´s complaining.Maybe U Music is trying to avoid that the people see that thy´re messing up things.

    It´s great to see that RSx is always aware of what´s happening with the distribution of hus music.

    Robert is very pissed off because th without precedents more than awful and terrible work of TMU on the promotion of the 4 singles and EP. Cheers to you Robert !!!!

    This new failure is another sign that Robert has to move out from TMU right now.

    There is no reason to stay in.

    Let´s see.

    Return to good news.

    Thanks for sharing PLEASE COME HOME.

    I knew that also there is a leak of the song "STRUM", which come from "The CURE" album sessions, i only read that it is a good poppy song, well structured.

    I never heard it.

    So, if anyone out there has it PLEASE SHARE IT WITH US......

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  49. Oh almost i forget it....

    Please if you can share " STRUM" and "ABINK" demos...

    Thanks a lot in advance...

    :)

    * hoping sighs *

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  50. yeah where was i when strum was being talked about? :c
    anyone feel like sharing?

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  51. come on craig!


    give us a little present :)

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  52. Three tracks floating around for two years? I read COF daily and hang around three different Cure boards, and that's the first time I've heard about this.

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  53. I don't think they were ever posted online.

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  54. what the hell does STRUM stand for? anything?

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  55. Sorry about MFC being down -- I upgraded the forum software and I'm currently re-skinning everything.

    It's very hard on the eyes at the moment and you'll have a bit of trouble finding things... but it'll be worth it when it's all done, I promise :D

    It's back up for browsing now, should be totally finished the end of the week (hopefully earlier).

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  56. Hey Geri, is that true that MFC has or had STRUM, ABINK & PLEASE COME HOME available for download ?

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  57. there are other labels out there...he could start his own...if the violate their deals and their ends of the contract he can get out of whatever contract they have...

    robert, and actual artist in music, especially these days, deserves better than this shit.

    burn the U

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  58. Robert and co. should rush out the Christmas album! This ould fulfil there obligation to TMU and then they can choose to deal with a sensible, more organised label - who will actually promote their talent.

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  59. mad bob: Not that I'm aware of... people are claiming to have demos, but they haven't been posted that I know of.

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  60. OK Geri, thanks for answer.

    You´re very nice.

    :)

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  61. All of this is very interesting. And thecure.com is somewhat dysfunctional...

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  62. Please Come Home is a gem.

    Anyone know why it wasn't put on the album? That leaked version sounds very complete to me.

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  63. the fact, its you can think what you want about this topic.. A boy i never knew its an exelent song too, and had the same destiny that please come home..

    I really think that the best stuff from the 2004 The Cure (album) sessions wasn't part of the cd album (i mean b sides, and at least 2 of this 3 ghost songs)..

    and well its happening the same now with the singles (the perfect boy its an exception)..

    the.. why? well, who knows.. why Robert kept his best songs out?..

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  64. Please Come Home does still sound like a demo, but a fairly polished one. Even if this is from the 2004 sessions, the amount of buried keyboard on it isn't much more than the buried keys on the newer songs. I wouldn't be surprised to hear the new version of this song sounding quite similar to the old one. Just because the band don't use keys live anymore (apart from the backing tracks) doesn't mean there won't be some sparse keys on the album, especially if the song could be played live sans keys (as this one surely can).

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  65. I love you Robert! Start your own label! Just think of the possibilities.

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  66. Now that I've listened to Please Come Home a few times, I think Craig is perfectly right that it comes from the 2004 sessions. (And, out of all of us, Craig would be in the best position to know.) It sounds a lot like the 2004 material and not like the new material, or at least what we've heard of it.

    I also understand why Robert didn't release this version. The guitar tracks are fabulous, but somehow the vocal melody (vaguely reminiscent of Truth Goodness & Beauty) doesn't work on top of the guitars. The vocals are also overproduced, as compared to the raw simplicity of the guitars. I'll be really curious to hear how the version on the new album sounds.

    Meanwhile a billion thanks to whoever leaked this thing. There are clearly two further tracks, since this mp3 contains metadata stating that it is track 1 of 3.

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  67. Glue: The other 2 tracks should be Strum and A Boy I Never Knew (04 version). But I don't think they've ever been posted. At least not yet.

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  68. I posted the lyrics for these 3 songs on Aug. 10th

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  69. Just finished listening to Please Come Home. Man, it blew me away. Robert has such raw emotion in his voice. It reminds me of how it used to be before the overproduction and the second guessing.

    The guitars are also freaking awesome. They have an amazing shoegazing quality to them that I miss.

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  70. And here's what I posted back on Aug. 5th, 2006:

    And all that could have been...in so many different ways....

    "Wanted to give you some info on the 3 unreleased tracks from the cure's 2004 album. these were not featured on any version of the album or b-side releases:

    A Boy I Never Knew - AMAZING! Possibly the most honest and mature song Robert has ever written. Lonely Piano, Acoustic Guitar, Light Drums and Sparse String Section. Reminds me of a children's lullaby (which makes sense since he supposedly wrote it for the son he never had) Could be compared to "going nowhere" in tone, but the simple, yet catchy tune reminds me of something from Kiss Me. Overall the track could have easily fit on Disintegration.

    Strum - Another song that could have lived on Disintegration (as a b-side probably) although sonicly the track has more in common with Wish-era. The lyrics are very clever and literate in a way that Robert hasn't exhibited since The Top.

    Please Come Home - Another song that could have easily lived on the second side of Disintegration. The track seems a little unfinished until the lead-in to the chorus. Then it really takes off. Jason's tribal drumming, mixed with the monolith keyboards competing with Robert's vocals really brings me back to 1989. Sends chills and makes you realize the slow undistinguished build-up only sells the song more.

    And there you go. Why these tracks never made it onto the album, I have no idea. These, plus the songs available on the vinyl release (TGB, Going Nowhere, This Morning), easily put the 2004 album up there with Disintegration in my opinion. My favorite band of all time has not lost one ounce of talent or focus over the last 15 years- they've just made a few bad choices in terms of song selections for their albums. Maybe they'll follow their hearts on the next one...."

    (Thanks Anonymous)

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  71. Craig, have you listened the 2 left unreleased demos from "The Cure" album sessions, ABINK and Strum ?

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  72. *wishes she wasn't so technically inept to find these things*

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  73. well i agree with anonymous. strum has some pretty amazing lyrics that remind me of old cure.
    i cant believe anonymous didnt let you listen to the songs, craig!

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  74. I lurve my Cure peeps. You know who you are!!!!

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  75. Anonymous Robinson?..


    maybeee?



    or maybe i heard that on a dream (lacaaaann please come help us!)

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  76. Why on God's Green Acres did Robert Smith ever get into bed with these Universal people to begin with?

    But I do love the E-Mail he sent to Universal. Eerily similar to the "fuck you and farewell" E-Mail I sent to my boss yesterday on my last day at the old job.

    Now that was fun!! :)

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  77. By the way...How much does that 7.99 translate to in American money? Just curious how screwed they are getting over in England.

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  78. DA - about $15.

    And there is nothing more satisfying than the "fuck you and farewell" email.

    Have you started the new job?

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  79. $15??

    Holy good night Mary Ellen Ryan and all the saints in Ireland! I understand now why Robert was so upset!

    I start the new job on 9/22. I'm taking the whole next week off. Monday has officially been designated as: "Sit in Underpants watching The Price is Right and catching up on Days of Our Lives" Day

    :)

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  80. LOL anguish! really glad to hear that! bravo :)

    oh robert... why did you ever sign with U?

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  81. RRobinson is not intelligent enough to have written what anonymous wrote. But I had forgotten about these songs (save ABINK) and so I am now very intrigued.

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  82. I think it is really sad that after so many yrs in the business this is happening to the band, treated like idiots and taking advantage of their generous decision to give proceeds to charity.

    If Robert does make this the last album, it will tinged with bitterness, lets hope he doesnt decide to rerecord it all

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  83. Alastair - Let's just hope they get out another album quickly to fulfil the 3 album obligation - and then they can start making decisions without TMU's involvement.

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  84. the proposed chronological singles collection might be the bands kiss off to free them from the label?

    this sucks really

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  85. Just listened to Please Come Home...simply amazing. The only think I can't figure out is why anyone would use the FHG encoder over LAME. Actually, I'm even more wondering why it wasn't leaked in wave or flac.

    Hope to hear the other 2 sooner than later. :)

    P.S. The Cure hasn't been to Minneapolis, MN since 1996. Please come back. :(

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  86. go robert!! Once again he is looking out for the people who actually care about the band. Plus he is also trying to make some $$$ for the greater cause (though i cant remember what it is exactly at the momment.) They should just sign to a smaller label to get the attention they deserve. then get there own label with similar acts which would only highlight the cures presence in the ever-growing world of popmusic.
    BTW my 2 fav songs by the cure are apinkdream, and exploding boy!! which also proves the power of their b-sides.

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  87. Re: the label debate floating around. May I just say that over the last year NIN released two albums, both experimental either in style or in the way the music was made available to the public (one is still available for free), make almost as much money as before, are touring extensively - all this WITHOUT the support of any label.

    They achieved this by using the www community: set up a good website, keep the fan base involved and have a web manager that is directly involved with the band. I am a long time fan and so I may be biased but I have the feeling that NIN get a lot of benefits from this freedom: things get done the way they want, fans are more excited than ever, prices are fair - thus people buy the music even though they have the option; mind you, concert tickets are quite pricey and so is most paraphernalia ($45 for some t-shirts). But at least people have a choice to pay for what they want. In this process NIN have made a huge V sign to the fat music corporate posse ... and, oh, their website does not mysteriously go down all of a sudden ;). Perhaps this model may work well for artists like the Cure who are concerned not just about the music but also about the process through which their music goes around. Food for thought.

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  88. i agree with everyone who said they should make their own independent label! Freedom!

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  89. When playing this file in WinAmp the shown album cover is of the Elvis album Tomorrow is a long time. Anyone with the same experience?

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  90. I think Craig probably shouldn't say whether or not he has heard the 3 songs. :-)

    I totally agree with d re NIN. What NIN is doing is the future of music distribution, and I'd love to see The Cure follow suit.

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  91. Monkeybutt asked what does "strum" stands for, well i think it stands for the verb strumming, as in playing the guitarre:)

    i already knew about this songs, but i never knew they were up on the net until yesterday and the only one so far available is please come home, but i guess the others are too, we just need to look harder, i mean craig did say there were recordings of those songs floating around on the net..

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  92. Did I miss the link to those songs? I have scrolled up and down and can't find it... or am I supposed to troll the web myself? Please advise. Merci. :-)

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  93. au moin il avertie tout le monde de pas achetée avec iTunes je trouve ca très genereux de sa par et très honnête !

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  94. I find it funny, that the Freakshow remix devides the fanbase into two corners. There seem to be many people who like it, based on the poll and the same amount of people who hate it. I quite like it... it has a Depeche Mode kinda feeling to it.

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  95. Haven't heard the full Freakshow mix yet. The EP wasn't available on Saturday at either record store, so I have to wait until Tuesday to get it. I am so looking forward to this... pretty hilarious considering my cantankerous attitude toward it recently....

    Does anyone else enjoy re-reading RSX's e-mail? It's deliciously profane and to the point...

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  96. >>WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO PAY THIS AND NOT FEEL TOTALLY RIPPED OFF?<<

    LOL

    >>IT'S NOT A FUCKING ALBUM!
    IT'S A 5 TRACK EP<<

    ROFL

    >>THIS IS SO TOTALLY WRONG
    I REALLY DO FUCKING DESPAIR<<

    ROFLMAO

    RSXXX, I just adore you too much.

    "I really do fucking despair" - a gorgeous mixture of the eloquent and profane!

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  97. Please come home is one of the finest Cure songs since a long time, and it can really be in the all time tops. Once again, this also proves that they (or rsx) CAN do good stuff - if they are allowed to (like in the good old Fiction days). Probably Mighty U or whatever else is controlling them thinks that Cure is just "Friday I'm in Love", and that the fans are as dumb as the song itself.

    About the MP3: I can't understand why one would choose the compressed, lossy format instead of a CD except for the portability reasons. MP3 isn't the real deal. It's just easier (and WAY cheaper) to make a master MP3 with 320kbps and offer it to the fans than to press a trillion CDs that won't be sold and will be available at P2P an hour later it's pressed.

    Can't wait to see rsx with "SLAVE" written on his forehead just like Prince did.

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  98. The offical is back up, at least for me anyway.

    Nothing has been removed so maybe last nights downtime was a coincidence....

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  99. please come home tears a hole in your heart...

    i am soo glad they kept ABINK, and those two of the self titled. :)
    they were meant for this album

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  100. ahem, mandelbrot, as a prince obsessive i have to just point out that 'slave' was not scrawled on his forehead, but on the left side of his face.

    :|

    /crazy

    carry on!

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  101. i love please come home. lurve it muchly.

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  102. I just asked this question on the official site, but I was browsing on Amazon for Hypnagogic and they have a CD/DVD - 'The Document' available for pre order on Sep. 30th. Any more info on that? Thanks!

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  103. Not sure if this was discussed yet, but I haven't had time to read all the postings...

    But The Cure should go completely independent and sell their own records directly off of their website. They have a large enough fan base that they should be able to sell records and the money will go directly to them instead of to a record label. Much like what Nine Inch Nails has been doing lately, it sounds like it's working better for them.

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  104. I think these are exciting times for the Cure. New album, I think, will be smashing... EP sounds surprisingly excellent... there will be another tour of sorts... and they are on the verge of telling their record company to go fuck themselves. Good things will come of this - they can start their own label, or go with a cool indie label, or... the possibilities are limitless!

    The Cure forever, yo!

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  105. I love Roberts vocal performance on Please Come Home. I love the abject, forlorn, supplicatory emotion in his voice, in every single note.
    ...I like how his voice and the music build slowly and carefully, creating all this tension, and then it breaks suddenly, putting you in an uncomfortable emotional vice grip. It sneaks up on you... His voice starts off calm and steady, and then it culminates with this intense quivering emotion... I liek that song!!!
    And Going Nowhere! Although it's a lot more emotionally "consistent", I love the arrangement, everything fits together perfectly. And Roberts shuddering breath at the very end reeeeally gets to me...
    Sigh, no other man on earth makes me feel like that.
    Truth Goodness And Beauty, Going Nowhere, Clouberry, Please Come Home.... oooh, I hope we get a setlist/encore with some of those on the next tour! ;_;
    I'll have a heart attack and die for sure, but it will sooooo be worth it.

    Monila-
    I've seen The Document up for pre-order at Amazon too. It looks promising, and I think quite a few people are pre-ordering it, but I'm trying to find more info on it before I purchase it... Not much luck so far. :/

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  106. the cure.

    they are good for this.

    the cure.

    butterpopsicles.

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  107. i think th EP sounds pretty awful, like something you would heard played at a bad island club town like ibiza,,surprisingly jared letos; is the only one (ha see what i did there) that kept any spirit to the song...not that it was brilliant by any means and i realize they are remixes...but good remixes keep the spirit of the song whilst changing them also in my opinion. alt of people take the piss on mixed up but its a great album, (with much better remixers. such as robert himself and william orbit) what i liked about mixed up is not only are they remixes ( and some i think sound better than the original: caterpilar, pics of you, fas street, and lovesong) but its like having 2 different versions of the same song by the same artist..not a lame 90s lets dance MTV rave compilation which is hypnagogic states....

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  108. I agree that Robert should make his own label and he probably will eventually. It's to bad for this release they just can't pull out of the deal and go to an indie label then perhaps we can get a full-on north american world tour instead of sparse dates.

    I will be waiting for the EP to be £4.00 or less...

    Regards,
    Liz in Minneapolis

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  109. 4 years later, still same website look'n'feel

    WTF ??????

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  110. Helsa, once again, I have fallen in love with you. You need to write for my webzine. :-)

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  111. RS could convince Mighty Fucking U that the EP is the second CD of their deal, thus the band would be released of their contract after 4:13 Dream.

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  112. sterogum thinks they can call robert emo and get away with it:
    http://stereogum.com/archives/the-cures-emo-ep-released-robert-smith-gets-emo-about-it_021491.html#more

    I FUCKING DESPAIR
    AGAIN
    for the amount of traffic we give them.

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  113. msp- Thats what i thought, but i'm pretty sure that the contract specifies -Only Studio Albums- and -No EPs- or else it would be too easy. Question: What happens if RS breaks the deal with the label before fullfiling the contract? he gets sued?? i thought i heard him say in an interview a couple years ago that those kind of contracts are not that serious, that nothing serious happens if you dont do your part of the deal nothing serious happens.. but i've always had that doubt..

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  114. this. cure. samples in the basement.

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  115. Is it wrong that I'm playing Please Come Home in an infinite loop? I can't get it out of my head.

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  116. Marc - me too!

    I'm thinking musically it sounds a bit similar to "The Drowning Man." Is it just me? Does anyone else hear dark and old Cure sounds in that song?

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  117. CHRISX!!

    How are you?!?! How's the clean-up after Ike?!

    Watch out for Hurricane RSXXX!!

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  118. Earshot just called and said my copy of Hypnagogic States is there waiting for me. :)

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  119. caterpillargirl2: I think its those tribal drums. Very Pornography if you ask me!!

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  120. I just heard Strum and ABINK Demos.
    The other 2 unreleased songs from "The Cure" Sessions.

    Great songs. Not much more to said.

    ABINK Demo is a little slower than the live versions we know.
    I love the piano on it.
    Smith sings in a very emotional way.
    Perfect.

    Strum is hard to describe, not poppy but not hard rock.
    Something in the middle.
    A little short for me.

    Both have light keyboards, that works good for the songs.

    Which´s better ?

    For me PCH & ABINK are tied, maybe PCH a little ahead.

    STRUM is very good too, but the overall mood of the previous two is CURE finest.


    CURE IS THE BEST !!!!!!

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  121. Care to share Mad Bob? Or have links to those already been posted?

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  122. Can you share the newly-recovered demos? Am desperately scrambling to find the link to where I found PCH, without success - did you find them in the same place, or do you know someone on the inside?

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  123. Okay, yeah, I need these other songs please. I have Please Come Home and that's it. Help a po gal out, por favor!

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  124. Yes, Robert, please tell The Un-Mighty U to just fuck-off!

    YAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  125. just checked on french iTunes... the whole EP is 9.99€ here as well, when the 4 first remixes are 0.99€ each... "exploding head syndrome" is available for sale only when you buy the whole EP.
    " The Great (U) Rock'n'Roll Swindle "

    (and oh, for the morons, 1€ is approx. 1.4 US$)

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  126. thanks for insulting everyone with your currency explanation. :)

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  127. well he is french, after all. insults come naturally. :-)

    (i can say this cuz my bf is french AND named francois!)

    *runs far away*

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  128. insults! french! the bore-worms.

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  129. i was sadder when syd barrett died.



    ("sadder" is that grammatically incorrect? cat? teachers?)

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  130. sadder indeed is correct, sofia. now hold out your hands so i can slap them with a ruler; that's the penalty for being too lazy to look it up yourself.

    i am sad about rick wright.

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  131. as hot date once said: "I WANNA DO IT, DO IT, I WANNA DO IT TO YOU."

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  132. i think.. its not a competition..

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  133. Mad Bob: These tracks must be set free. I'm sure, in the current "Mighty Universal" climate, RS would approve :)

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  134. bob, i'm in agreement with everyone else about those tracks...push out the jive and bring in the love.

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  135. Set the tracks freeeeeee!!

    It will be very interesting to have two studio versions of a couple of those from different line-ups.

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  136. May want to keep an eye on Bob's blog.

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  137. I think MSP000 may be onto something here. If TMU are charging 'album prices' then Hypnagogic States must BE an album - therefore, once 4:13 Dream is released The Cure will have fulfilled their 3 album obligation.

    *waves to the pixies and fairies that live in the Land of Wishful Thinking with her*

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  138. Just as an update to all UK COFers Play.com is selling the e.p at a much more reasonable £4.99.

    HMV is selling at an incredible £2.99. Roughly the same as the singles.

    *Puts on French accent* That works out at about $10 and $6 Respectively. Much better than iTunes.

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  139. *Waves back*

    I think you are onto something there Elise.

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  140. please come home should have been on the self titled instead of the promise.

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  141. Please Come Home should have replaced Never. Never is one of the worst tracks on any Cure album ever IMO.

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  142. andrew: or never. good call. maybe both?

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  143. The Promise never gets any respect! I love that track, especially live.

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  144. *waves at Andrew*

    Isn't life grand in the Land of Wishful Thinking - where Please Come Home WAS actually in the Self Titled album (replacing Never) and 4:13 Dream is hailed by all (including critics) as the BEST.ALBUM.EVA.

    *wonders whether sleep deprivation really does affect the mind*

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  145. i never heard it live, but i take cat's word for it on the power it wields. on the album, it's just an overlong, boring joke. i always smirk and get embarrassed at robert's first howl.

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  146. MB - I have to say, I love the live version of The Promise - and do not dislike it as a song. For me there are worse Cure songs than The Promise.

    *washes mouth out with soap*

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  147. Promise haters watch this, then!:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFn3EtTA11Y

    I always was into proggy, guitar-wank stuff though. Your mileage may vary ;)

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  148. I like The Promise although I do understand why it grates some people up.

    It's been said a 1000 times but I think the albums flaws come from the track selection not the music.

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  149. *curses her work firewalls.... again*

    Marc, thanks for the link, but I won't be able to watch this until I get home (which is at least another 10 hours away :( )

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  150. hiiiiiiii elise!

    and who says 'never' is the worst song ever? NUMB is the worst song ever! let's box!

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  151. i heard he lobbed a law bomb...

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  152. Sofia - gotta love an Arrested Development reference!

    "Yes... but where did the lighter fluid come from?"

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  153. Sofia - I see your Numb and raise you a Round&Round&Round.

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  154. MB - You like R&R&R.... really?
    It is a track that I always skip - that and Club America. And yet, there are a number of tracks from WMS that I do like - so I would never entirely bag the album.

    Again, it goes down to what Andrew said before - it all comes down to track listing selection.

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  155. r&r&r actually sounds like a cure song to me...the cute little guitar/marimba/whatever solo just kills me. i've always liked it.

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  156. Oh no! Now I have R&R&R running R&R&R in my head!!

    *reaches for headphones and selects Please Come Home* ahhh - that's better

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  157. god, im dying, i need to hear those songs!! and is it really true that Richard Wright is dead?? i can't believe it!! :(

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  158. Guess that's why the Floyd reunion tour never happened. Poor old Wrighty was very ill.

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  159. for amazon canada is 3.99$ for this single.

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  160. Andrew127 said it. Who do you suppose has the final say on track listings? Robert or the record company?

    The last three albums have been lessened by poor track choices. This also coincides with the departure of Thompson and Williams.

    Now that Porl is back we might get a decent track list!

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  161. et enpassant les insultes sont pas admis ici n'ais pas ??surtout pour les français

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  162. Ok enough debating about Hypnagogic being a rip off on itunes Robert! Just release the info about the new album....lord its due in 40 if you live outside the US and 41 if you do.....should be some info by now! Get those punters frothing at the gills for the new material!

    Universal sucks the big kumera (sweet potato) we know....now set it aside and unleash the treats!

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  163. Calm down Alastair. :)

    He did say once Hypnagogic States was born there would be some more news. Technically, it's birthday is tomorrow in the states. Long, painful labor if you ask me. :p

    (hopes rsx posts soon!)

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  164. Hypnagogic States wasn't born so much as it was spat out :)

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  165. I have to add a very strong vote for the brilliance of The Promise. It's without doubt my favorite song on The Cure. I listen to it constantly. I know every wah-wah pedal line by heart. The Promise and Lost are the two best tracks on that album, in my opinion.

    If you want to replace a song on the self-titled disk, replace (I Don't Know What's Going) On or Taking Off. Those were horrible.

    And speaking of horrible, I have to say that I can't stand Hypnagogic States. The 65DOS remix is decent. The others aren't worth a nickel. I actually deleted them. I never want to hear them again.

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  166. I like Taking Off.

    The Promise is a really good song, I love the intro.......but it's too long. They needed to cut it in half.

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  167. The EP is now up in the US iTunes Store, with the bonus track, for $3.99.

    Robert Wins!

    http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=290475935&s=143441

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  168. Do you realize that when I search for "Please Come Home" in my WMP library I get "Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want" by the Smiths right after it.

    And When I search for "Without You" I get "With or Without You" by U2 right after it.

    LOL - I just thought it was ironic that two of the artists RSX despises the most come up with a simple search of new Cure songs in my library. Can't help it, I'm a child of the 80's.

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  169. And further.......when searching for "The Promise"

    I get two matches:

    1 from The Cure
    1 from When in Rome

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  170. Okay, lol, I have to add to this tense intellectual discussion: The Promise is one overly long boring song, that wants to be epic, but fails admirably. So sad that it ends most THE CURE albums out there, instead of Going Nowhere.

    Never, on the other end, I do find interesting. While not a very good song in itself, it is so away from what The Cure usually does that it's like a statement in itself. Like The Cure saying: see? We can also play what everybody else plays out there. In this respect, it's a unique Cure song, and yeah, I respect it for that.

    ...yea I went there.

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  171. my brain has convinced me that the name of the band actually is 65DOS.

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  172. in canada itunes the hypnagogic states is 9.99$ this is terible!!!

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  173. i just saw mogwai tonite monkeyfuck. and they were fuckin rad so fuck off. :-)

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  174. cat: i saw them last tuesday, so blow me.

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  175. i was just checking out a website dedicated to The Waltons, that old show from the 70s, and i came across a word i didn't recognize. what's a 'cunny'?

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  176. Oh, you two... Get a room!!

    Cat- how would one go about writing for your blog? Just submit something random? Random subject...? 8/

    Brad said...
    “The EP is now up in the US iTunes Store, with the bonus track, for $3.99.
    Robert Wins!”

    It looks as though Robert’s only able to "win" for the USA for the moment? I don’t think the price has changed at any of the other iTunes “Stores”.

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  177. Monkey- I like being helpful.

    cunny-
    (Adult / Slang)
    The vagina; a euphemism for cunt.
    Etymology: British coinage of the 17 th century derived from: a) a diminutive of cunt, b) the Latin cunnus , the external female geitals, c) from coney / cony, once a common name for a rabbit. See vagina for synonyms.

    Quote: Thomas D'Urfey, Wit and Mirth (1719): ' All my delight is a cunny in the night / When she turns up her silver hair.'

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  178. CG - you always make me LOL.

    mmm i say mogwai and 65dos collab, the latter is a fan of the former.

    monkeybutt - o.O
    they invented something called the dictionary, i think you can find it in there.

    goodnight johhny boy!

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  179. helsabot - odd story that i just remembered as you wrote that. it was in the 7th grade, and i read that word in a magazine and so I asked my 7th grade science teacher what it meant - and that was pretty much her definition. well the basic gist of it.

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  180. Robert has posted the 4:13 tracklisting at thecure.com:

    4:13 DREAM WILL LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS...
    9/15/2008 9:18:09 PM - by CURE:ROBERT

    AND WILL SOUND SOMETHING LIKE THIS...

    01 UNDERNEATH THE STARS
    02 THE ONLY ONE
    03 THE REASONS WHY
    04 FREAKSHOW
    05 SIRENSONG
    06 THE REAL SNOW WHITE
    07 THE HUNGRY GHOST
    08 SWITCH
    09 THE PERFECT BOY
    10 THIS. HERE AND NOW. WITH YOU
    11 SLEEP WHEN I’M DEAD
    12 THE SCREAM
    13 IT’S OVER

    IT WILL BE THE SAME EVERYWHERE
    (AAAAAH... JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS?!!)
    AND WILL BE AVAILABLE ON CD, VINYL AND ONLINE...

    MORE EXCITING NEWS ABOUT STUFF AND STUFF IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS...

    RSX
    PS
    TAKING BETS NOW AGAINST 'DARK ALBUM' COMPANION PIECE OUT BEFORE MY BIRTHDAY 2009... HA!

    OR NOT SO HA...

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  181. well thank god there's not a song called 'lusting here in your mind' because i've always hated that title.

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