ugh. this guy and his 'music' are some of the worst of the neo-hippie crap i've ever heard. saw him/them open for pulp in SF this year and it was the worst thing to sit through. his comments about robert smith are the lamest things i've read lately, and i know robert would just say 'who?' if asked about it.
If you listen to early Cure; like the album Seventeen Seconds (Songs: A Forest; or 'M'), or the song Charlotte Sometimes; and listen to Ariel Pink's first homemade album The Doldrums, you will hear clear connections in the dreamy, ethereal, dark whooshy sounds and the drum beats.. 12 years later, on Mature Themes, the influence is less apparent... Ariel Pink's a genius. And understanding that takes a lot of digging and patience between he has thousands of songs and few are similar.. Some sounds like Morbid Angel, and some sound like Michael Jackson, and some sound like both at the same time. He is the culmination of pop music history - a psycho, but a musical genius..
Hah! Well I think it's NME talking out of their butt, as they're the ones making that claim. He just claims to be able to read Robert's mind, which I'm sure he probably truly believes. :)
the first time i heard ariel pink was when i saw a youtube video of his. the music seemed very much influenced by the cure around '81-'84. the visuals also seemed like a nod to the video for "charlotte sometimes". as far as making strange claims to the music press, nothing cure-like about that, huh? ;)
i loooooove ariel pink and he is a very very big cure fan. if you go on youtube, try 'round and round' not at all a cure sound but lots of fun. he and geneva jacuzzi always talk about what an influence the cure have been on their music, attitude and visuals.
I didn't know he existed before today so I checked him and his wife on Youtube. I don't know about his music but the Jacuzzi person seems to like The Glove's sound a lot.
I love Ariel Pink too, he's an important musical artist and has A LOT to offer IMHO, and yeah, he's always said he loves The Cure, in the current issue of The Wire magazine for instance he's talking about the "Faith" album, saying it's like it's own genre (something like that, I don't think it's online, I can maybe scan it if people are interested...). There are some parallels to the Cure, maybe, something about the occasional wooziness of the sounds and the androgyny, the way he sounds both depressed and blissed out at the same time etc. but the parallels end somewhere, again IMO. To get an idea what AP is about this Simon Reynolds article is good: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/06/entertainment/la-ca-ariel-pink-20100601
& this is a transcript of what he said about "Faith" in The Wire 06/12 (but it's worth reading the whole article):
His favourite record was Faith by The Cure. "It changed my life when I was younger. That record, for me, was its own genre. Fxxx everything else, fxxx Joy Division, that record for me typified everything I wanted to be, which is mediocrity, ambiguity, totally serious and totally helpless. There is no future in that music, it has no place in the world, so I thought of it as an extremely violent gesture for that record just to be there."
ugh. this guy and his 'music' are some of the worst of the neo-hippie crap i've ever heard. saw him/them open for pulp in SF this year and it was the worst thing to sit through. his comments about robert smith are the lamest things i've read lately, and i know robert would just say 'who?' if asked about it.
ReplyDeleteAny hint of a Cure influence on his music? Never heard anything by him, I don't think, and sounds like I don't ever want to. :)
DeleteLooked him up on youtube. Pretty terribad.
DeleteIf you listen to early Cure; like the album Seventeen Seconds (Songs: A Forest; or 'M'), or the song Charlotte Sometimes; and listen to Ariel Pink's first homemade album The Doldrums, you will hear clear connections in the dreamy, ethereal, dark whooshy sounds and the drum beats.. 12 years later, on Mature Themes, the influence is less apparent... Ariel Pink's a genius. And understanding that takes a lot of digging and patience between he has thousands of songs and few are similar.. Some sounds like Morbid Angel, and some sound like Michael Jackson, and some sound like both at the same time. He is the culmination of pop music history - a psycho, but a musical genius..
Deletehonestly, craig, i think he's just talking out of his butt. i heard nothing but really lame SF circa 1969 nonsense.
ReplyDeleteHah! Well I think it's NME talking out of their butt, as they're the ones making that claim. He just claims to be able to read Robert's mind, which I'm sure he probably truly believes. :)
DeleteI like Ariel Pink, sometime ago i read that his favorite band is the cure, also his girlfriend Geneva Jacuzzi plays "the walk" and she's really good.
ReplyDeletethe first time i heard ariel pink was when i saw a youtube video of his. the music seemed very much influenced by the cure around '81-'84. the visuals also seemed like a nod to the video for "charlotte sometimes".
ReplyDeleteas far as making strange claims to the music press, nothing cure-like about that, huh? ;)
Ariel' pink did a great album....and by the way i suggest to have a listen to john maus, some ways related to ariel's crew. A darker project...
ReplyDeleteJohn Maus is one of my favorites right now, i think his sound has a lot of the Faith album.
Deleteyeah, great ~ yet another reason for rock stars to fear American psychophants...
ReplyDeleteAh, it´s a group? Thought it was a girl.
ReplyDeletei loooooove ariel pink and he is a very very big cure fan. if you go on youtube, try 'round and round' not at all a cure sound but lots of fun. he and geneva jacuzzi always talk about what an influence the cure have been on their music, attitude and visuals.
ReplyDeleteI didn't know he existed before today so I checked him and his wife on Youtube.
ReplyDeleteI don't know about his music but the Jacuzzi person seems to like The Glove's sound a lot.
I love Ariel Pink too, he's an important musical artist and has A LOT to offer IMHO, and yeah, he's always said he loves The Cure, in the current issue of The Wire magazine for instance he's talking about the "Faith" album, saying it's like it's own genre (something like that, I don't think it's online, I can maybe scan it if people are interested...). There are some parallels to the Cure, maybe, something about the occasional wooziness of the sounds and the androgyny, the way he sounds both depressed and blissed out at the same time etc. but the parallels end somewhere, again IMO. To get an idea what AP is about this Simon Reynolds article is good: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/06/entertainment/la-ca-ariel-pink-20100601
ReplyDelete& this is a transcript of what he said about "Faith" in The Wire 06/12 (but it's worth reading the whole article):
ReplyDeleteHis favourite record was Faith by The Cure. "It changed my life when I was younger. That record, for me, was its own genre. Fxxx everything else, fxxx Joy Division, that record for me typified everything I wanted to be, which is mediocrity, ambiguity, totally serious and totally helpless. There is no future in that music, it has no place in the world, so I thought of it as an extremely violent gesture for that record just to be there."