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I can live with that. :)
Me too Shawn. And Perfect Boy in august. : )
Got my local record store on top of it. Thanks for that info.Took me 2 weeks to get "The Only One", hopefully the rest of the singles will be available in a smoother fashion.
wait...i feel like i'm out of the loop. so is abink just an album track so far?
Sofia - we're not even sure it will make the Sept. album yet. Only RS knows for sure and he ain't talking. : )
since those are the 4 tracks that consistently make it into the setlists, of course there's no reason to doubt that they are the 4 singles.
A Boy I Never Knew should be a single. Period. It's superior to The Perfect Boy, and I think that it has the potential to be a hit.
No way, Perfect Boy stomps all over the Boy INK, then beats it up with Sofia's boxing gloves. : )
Craig, do I have to come down to NO and turn you into the Krewe of Orpheus' next float? Stop talking smack! :P
I'd prefer to be a Bacchus float, but let's not get into that. : )
confirmed: b-side is a cover of 'never gonna give you up.' we've all been curerolled!
Hmm seems like the singles plan has changed quite a lot since last October.Three singles "One poppy, one dancey and one sad" (Paraphrasing).ABINK wouldn't be a good single, imo. Its too sad and serious.But A perfect boy and Sleep when i'm dead could be good :).
i'll be wearing my fancy dress boxing gloves for the radio city show, craig. the lacey ones. it will be difficult to text, but not impossible! ;D
Too sad and serious? What would you consider something like November Rain, Crucify, Winter, Dear God A Letter to Elise, etc.
Oops, forgot to add the comma between the last two song titles.
shawn-w: You might not agree with me here but I consider A letter to Elise to be happier and less sadder than AKINK.I can't think of a Cure single that has ever been very sad or serious, even POY and ALTE have have musical arrengements that can be considered to be happy and uplifting in parts.
"AKINK." don't let clockwise cat see that abbreviation.
Urgh, posted to earlierP.S However, I think ABINK should be a album only track because it doesn't have that uplifting or slightly playful tune which come along with most Cure singles.I probably make no sense at all :|.
monkeybutt: I knew someone would spot that, grrr. ;).
Horray for pre-orders, I love Freak Show <3
MonkeyButt: I wanna hear Rick Astley do a cover of "Club America".
I´m with shawn. ABINK could be good single. Why can´t be a single slow, sad and serious? Of course i like SWID and PB, but why not something different?
v, that would be freaking great. maybe i would like the song if it had an uber-disco beat.
anah, do you actually have the single? how's that possible?
What about A Forest, Other Voices, or The Hanging Garden? Also, what about Robert's stuff with The Glove, specifically Punish Me With Kisses?
MonkeyButt: Could a Rick Astley song have anything but a great beat? ;)
Anah - you have it?!?! Hi, remember me, I'm your best friend. And best friends always share, right? : )
lol, craig. has anah ever posted here? if we never hear from him/her again, it was probably just a troll trying to get a rise out of us and laughing as we freak out wondering how someone could have the new cure single a week early and is enjoying the studio version and the b-side that none of us have ever heard before. not that i'm freaking out. i'm not freaking out at all. i don't care if someone else has it and i don't. i don't mind that someone else is listening to it and i'm not. doesn't bother me a bit. i'm not concerned at all. not even a little.
i love being rickrolled on cure messageboards:|
shawn-w: I agree with you there, espcially with other voices. However, Cure singles now are completely different from the way they were then: almost every cure single since 1983 then has a commercial feel to them. I don't think Robert would release a completely downbeat song (Sad lyrics, music, overtones) again. I don't know what it is really but I never felt as if ABINK was a single ish type of song, to me it would be like if they'd released The Loudest Sound as a single. I think i'd find it a bit odd to be honest.As I said, I probably make no sense :S.
You guys are silly, no I don't have it yet. I'm just happy that I pre-ordered the pack from Ideal Copy and just get them auto shipped when they get released. I would love to say I have it, and you don't-but alas, I am not that well connected! I wish!And no, I haven't really posted here yet, but have been a CoF'er (LOL) for years.<333.A
Yeah, I thought that was you Anah. Thanks for not holding out on me and Monkey. : )
Cool... it goes from worst to best. Wonder if that's deliberate?The Only OneFreakshowSWIDAPB
Oh, and to Beau, I'm not saying that you're wrong in your opinion, but the band should really try something different instead of making every pop song a single, and other bands have released singles that were serious in tone and scored big. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I know that my eyes begin to glaze over when all I hear is pop pop pop. Something different would get my attention.
thanks anah. ;)
oh, and ABINK should NOT be a single. It's wonderful, but NO.
in my opinion, the only one is vastly superior to what i've heard of freakshow so far, and i'm even less enamored of sleep when i'm dead than i was initially. i've been listening to the only one repeatedly, on headphones and in my car, and it's really a great fucking song. there's so much more going on than at first listen. i agree on the perfect boy, however. that song's the best. totally love it.
Hmmmm, I would like a bit of diversity too :) but I do have this really odd feeking about having ABINK as a single for some reason. Ahh well :).
Feeking? Freudian slips galore tonight.I mean "feeling".
monkeybutt, in one of the live vids of one of the cali shows, the only one sounded awesome. as is sometimes the case with cure songs, it sounds better live. i don't dig the studio version, though. still lovin' EOTW more. ;-)
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i can't even think of what any of the songs sound like right now, frankly. summer flus are the worst.
I guess that "13th" thing hasn't really worked out, huh? Close enough, though. We still get a single a month.I'm quite looking forward to "Freakshow", but I've put all my single pre-orders on delay because I don't wanna get too distracted from my school work until its done.Big thanks to you, Craig, for letting us know the amazon.ca link offered the CDs at $1.99, since I would have stopped checking!
again, i'm just glad i'm ten minutes from amoeba.
Craig-Did I read it right that you were at the show liast night? I wish I would have known, I was there too. And interestingly enough, happened to have a seat right next to Autumn from the Pictures Of You site.
Anybody ever notice that the term "poppy" (and I'm not talking about the stuff opium comes from) is only used in relation to The Cure and no other band?
anah - no, that was a different Craig. I was here in NO doing the live updates. : )
unless it's the stuff opium comes from, i'm not interested in talking about it...
cat, i hear you about EOTW. meaning, you're nuts. :D
LOL. i do think APB is the best of the three (EOTW, TOO, and ABP), though. Unless Robert goes all Ross Robinson and screws up the studio version.
this is one song that i could totally hear with a harder edge (TPB). at the bowl, they were riffing pretty hard (with that cure style behind it, of course) and it was just great. reminded me of a 70s rock tune, of all things. in a good way.
"...Unless Robert goes all Ross Robinson and screws up the studio version."I wonder what Robert really thinks of the last album. And on the same note, I wonder what Porl thought of it.
mb: well, robert has been mining his classic rock influences a lot on the last coupla albums, and seemingly for this one too. i like that. i love that brdb sounds all 70s hard rock. and yes, apb sounds a bit like that too, but with the signature cure sound permeating. i pray to buddha that he don't fuck up the studio versions, though! i have too much time to worry about such ultimately trivial things. :-)
anah, that's a great question. i often think of porl listening to the albums the cure has released since he left after wish, and wondering what his thoughts were on all of them.
I wonder what Mathieu Hartley thought of it.;)Seriously, tho, I also wonder how Robert feels about Ross Robinson's work in retrospect.
anah: my sense is that he probably still likes it, but can hear the flaws a bit more. i think its main flaw is the mix/production. other than that, most of the songs are great. imo. :-)
Well, at least we know what Simon, Roger and Perry thought of the album, and of double R. : )
man alive, what surreal times those were four years ago. such "promise" with RR, and such a letdown as far as the mix (in some parts, anyway - with some songs it worked). and such a HUGE letdown with the tracklist/multiple version fiasco. i really love parts of the cure a lot, but i just find it a travesty about the thousand diff versions and the exclusion of tgb and tm and gn. of course, i'm a broken record by now...
Clockwise: Seen anything interesting on YouTube today? ;)
I sometimes wonder what Andy Anderson thought in 1989 and 1992. Same goes for Michael Dempsey and Phil Thornalley.
V - poor Jo is still asleep. she'll have a nice surprise waiting for her. : )
Craig: And how! :) Damn! Quite a view...
Craig: Do you know if the Cat saw it?
V - Yes, Cat saw it. Her comments were predictable. : )
Craig: Okay! Just making sure she didn't somehow miss it. (It being the video, of course!)
And Jo IS awake now. : )
Craig: Woo hoo. :)
Jo is WIDE-AWAKE now!!!!! But has to get ready for work :(.Have fun everyone.
Lol Elise!!! :) Have a good day at work. :)
I'm curious about Porl's opinion because it wasn't shortly after that album was out that The Hammer Came Down, and we Porl replace Roger and Perry.
I think Porl doesn´t like wms either
If there is a Christmas album, I strongly suspect A Boy I Never Knew will be on it.
I thunk "Sleep When I'm Dead" makes a great comeback killer single
I think "Sleep When I'm Dead" makes a great comeback killer single
can i tell you what i think of bloodflowers and ross robinson?
Simon is a punk-hunk with some fine assets. :-)
"can i tell you what i think of bloodflowers and ross robinson?"As long as you realize that Ross had nothing to do with Bloodflowers.
i thought the singles would all come out on the 13th of each month *gets upset*. is that still the plan, or?monkeybutt - if you live near amoeba, then we live close to each other 0_0
christianz,pfft. obviously you don't know me very well!
but my opinion of both is the same.
"What about A Forest, Other Voices, or The Hanging Garden?"Actually, I think "Other Voices" was never released as a single, or am I wrong? It appears in the "Staring at the Sea" CD and video but was not included in the original "Standing on a Beach" LP compilation.Anyway, don't forget "Charlotte Sometimes". That was a pretty melancholic single.But the greatest missing opportunity was "One More Time". That had all the potential to be asuccessful slow romantic single back in 1987. I can imagine Cure fans singing it with Robert in concerts all over the world. A pity, they never even play it live, nowadays...
"Anybody ever notice that the term "poppy" (and I'm not talking about the stuff opium comes from) is only used in relation to The Cure and no other band?"Well, Siouxsie & The Banshees do have a song called "Poppy Day". I suppose it sometimes gets mentioned in reviews of the "Join Hands" album...Although it's true that that song mentions "poppy fields" and I don´t think it's referring to Robert Smith singing "The Lovecats" in some Yorkshire countryside landscape...
This is fast forwarding from earlier posts, but totally agreed, A Boy I Never Knew would work great as a single...And they can afford to do that.... (having 4 singles out in a row), To have one that's not too upbeat does make sense..It is such a great song..It really grew on me on the European tour...Elsewhere on this site i moaned about how lucky you guys have been to have so many new songs played during the U.S tour(what with Want, The Big Hand etc last night), but You are missing out on ABINK....It's huge!
A Boy I Never Knew will never be a ingle and rightly so. This really feels like an album track. The Cure have some melancholy singles but they all have some anthemic dimension (Charlotte, Pictures of You, Hanging Garden). Singles either have to be catchy or somehow make you curious about the album (the reviled "13th" managed to do both at the same time!). ABINK does neither.
"Singles either have to be catchy or somehow make you curious about the album..ABINK does neither"....well excuse me but it makes me very curious about the album, that's for sure!!!
i think the title of the song should actually be changed to ABINK. it has that certain mysterious quality we've come to expect from the cure.
revolt, you're right. I'd always thought of Other Voices and A Night Like This as singles, but they never were, nor were 10:15 Saturday Night or Play for Today. Hmm, well I guess that Duran Duran isn't alone in making music videos for songs that were never singles.
i cant believe they release 'freak show" as a single...its not good enough for a b-side...what are they thinking????? I am a cure fan...but some things i will never understand (end of the world...single...WTF)...
calling clockwise cat, party of 1?
What kind of singles would you rather have Marco?For me, even bad cure is good cure.Freakshow is different and interesting.
@Monkey butt....hilarious thanks....where is she?
APB is the most complete song of the 4. It grabs you immediately, passion aside, it is the single you want out when they introduce the album. I liked it of course as a fan, but when fair weathered critics gravitate towards it, as they did ealier in the northeast, it speaks volumes about the over all appeal. They know what they are doing.
I like Freakshow. I don't LOVE it so far, though. But at least it's diff. Whatevs. Bring on the fucking album. :-)
I have a feeling that the studio cut of Freak Show might sound a bit better. I actually like it. In fact, I've been 100% pleased with all the new stuff. This is shaping up to be the best album since Wish (imho).
There is no way that we're getting a "Christmas album", it makes no sense whatsoever. Is Robert going to release "Dream 13" in September and then another new album in December? No way, that's just a fantasy. I mean, just getting Dream 13 out has been a difficult pregnancy, the damn thing is still crowning!
JPX: Great analogy - and imagery - there! Haha!! :D
Seriously, this has been the most painful release of an album I've ever experienced. Instead of getting it all at once we're getting it in drips and drabs via concerts and single releases. I love all the new stuff and I just want Robert to push the damn thing out already - I'll even cut the cord =)
ewwwwwww. bloody dripping screaming newborn curebaby!
Yea should be bloody 13 or somethin'!