Monday, June 2, 2008

Faith from The Shrine

Faith (live at the Shrine - June 1st, 2008) in FLAC format.
Note: Brian asks you to please not convert it to MP3, except for your own personal use on an mp3 player.
(A million thanks to Brian for sharing it)

106 comments:

  1. Whee! See, the begging works! Thanks a lot, Brian!

    If anyone needs it, I can transfer this to mp3 format after I get home and share it here. :)

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  2. Jenny, PLEASE don't share this in lossy formats such as mp3! If you want to do so for your own personal use (like for an ipod or something) that's fine. This is coming from the taper ; )

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  3. Hey, b, that rocks that you have in in FLAC. As an audiophile, I applaud and appreciate that. Any possibility of uploading the whole show at some point?

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  4. Copy that, Brian. :) I do that because it's the only file format I can use. Anyway, thanks a million for sharing it!

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  5. Thanks for the file, Brian. I definitely will respect your request.

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  6. Brian, will it be up on Dime or Traders Den? Thanks for sharing!!!

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  7. Three Imaginary Boys was dedicated to Si
    but who is Si?

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  8. Si is Simon. But it was a mistake. Simon dedicated it to Lol and Michael.

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  9. Brian.

    Marry me.

    [It's legal here now!]

    Amazing. You, sir, are a saint and ought to be acknowledged as such.

    Cheers.

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  10. Thank you for sharing, Brian! Now I want to know how to open this FLAC to play the song. Is there anybody who can teach me?

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  11. VLC media player will play it.

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  12. Can anyone provide a link to an MP3 of this? I can't play FLACs - or I don't know how.

    Thanks Brian, whoever you are. :-)

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  13. thanks for sharaing, Brian.

    Media Monkey (mediamonkey.com)will play FLAC.

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  14. oh, i just read the comments - can't convert to MP3 per Brian's request. :-(

    I'll never hear it.

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  15. an updated version of Winamp will play the FLAC

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  16. Cat! Don't be so fatalist! You're breaking my heart with your "never"! Of course one of us geeks will find a way for you to hear it! Right, geeks? I wish it were I but as you know, I ain't no PC nerd :o(

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  17. xACT.app will work for my fellow mac users

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  18. Oh, the suspense! I can't d/l this from work, but I can't wait to hear it when I get home. Thanks for sharing, Brian, and thanks for posting it, Craig!! :)

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  19. v - Come on! D/L it! Your boss will understand... ;o)

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  20. Fantac: I totally would, but that site is blocked from my office. :) Bah!

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  21. I really appreciate Brian distributing this but I have a bit of a problem with it. I just installed VLC media player and have been able to play only about 20 seconds of the FLAC file. Anybody have any idea what's going on?

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  22. thanks anyways, but I'm not d/l programs I won't use for 1 song..

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  23. You people give up so easily! There are free codecs available online that will allow you to play FLACs in Windows Media Player. It works for me just fine. :) Just do a web search.

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  24. I too appreciate the sharing! Also having a problem playing the track....

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  25. guys, just go to this great site called "google" and type in "playing flac files."

    quickest way is to download winamp and play it. winamp plays full flac files.

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  26. I have a Mac. Now, before you all rail me for having what is, quite frankly, a superior product ;-), I am sure there are plenty of ways to play this file on a Mac. But I am also a techno-phobe - utterly clueless about all this fancy software stuff. I downloaded something from Mediamonkey, but I don't know what to do with it.

    So it's really my fault for being such a dumbass. Well, the dumbass part could be genetic, in which case it's someone else's fault.

    Damn you ancestors!

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  27. cat, trying googling "i want to play flac files, but i am a dumbass, plus i have an overpriced computer that isn't user friendly." see if that helps...

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  28. LOL you asshole!

    macs are more user-friendly than windows ANY FUCKING DAY!

    but they are a bit pricey, i'll give you that.

    tx for the laugh, though, monkeydork. maybe i'll google that after all.

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  29. Just wait a few days and google this :

    "I'm the asshole that didn't respect Brian's wish and turned the FLAC file into an MP3".

    This should work for both MAC and PC!

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  30. I found FLUKE... it will allow itunes to play .flac files. Don't be a hater!!

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  31. mac users,try toolplayer --> http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32403

    freeware, very light and easy to use.
    supports 24 bit / 96 kHz FLAC files too by the way.

    (ps. who needs mp3s in 2008 anyway?)

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  32. i believe the note on the main page says that brian is ok if the mp3 is for personal use only. which is what i'm using it for. ipod only, nothing else! wooooooooooooooooooooo!

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  33. yes, brian said mp3 was fine for personal use.

    so NYAH!

    :-P

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  34. Just fyi, y'all, I got the FLAC to work using Winamp. Jenny and Cat, just go to winamp.com and click on the big Free Download button on the middle of the page. You can save the executable to your hard drive (that's what I did), or run it. Easy! (This is for PC)

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  35. some of you might get some detailed help if you would just include an email address somewhere in your profile...

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  36. didnt i just say xACT would work? mac people...

    oooooh. that was from my "other" name, but still :@

    and for those of you who need sites unblocked at work or school i recommend ninjaproxy.com

    ENJOY!

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  37. that was me :| the jig is up.

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  38. @monkeybutt:
    but there's nothing that should force anyone to be mp3-only minded even if one's an ipod-lover. i have an ipod too, btw.


    with mac:
    if your ipod doesn't play flac, then convert flac to .wav/.aif with xACT:
    http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/
    moreinfo/macosx/21952

    takes literally two minutes to do it. and in return you get more enjoyable listening quality.
    imo, everybody wins.

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  40. Yeah Clockwise, Macs rule! There is no computer-purchasing situation in which I don't recommend buying a Mac.

    The two biggest objections from Windows users are: 1) Macs cost too much and 2) I need Windows. But as of two years ago you can run Windows on any new Mac (in fact, many PC magazines have recommended Apple laptops as the FASTEST-PERFORMING Windows portables available).

    My friend Brendan wanted to buy a Mac last time (four years ago) and he bought a Dell instead. "I want to have a PC." Three failures later he said "I'm never buying a PC again." Now he has two Macs and swears he'll never go back. (He's essentially switched to Mac OS X but he's got WindowsXP on them too.)

    And I haven't even gotten into Vista, the "train wreck," the "disaster," the "worst OS release ever" etc. etc. etc. PCs run on Vista, which means get ready for endless problems with peripherals, printers, etc. If you don't believe me Google "Vista problems" or some such. Waves of consumers have been downgrading to XP in order to get their machines working again.

    Look at these iMacs:

    http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&node=home/desktop/imac

    The 20 inch iMac costs the same as a Dell, and the monitor's part of the computer. And it's vastly, vastly superior technology. Before you buy anything take a trip to your local Apple Store and look at the iMacs.

    If you're absolutely determined to buy a PC (and remain part of a shrinking group of dissatisfied customers wrestling with yesterday's cheesy technology) then buy a Dell.

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  41. jpx speaks the truth, dudes.

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  42. Thanks, Sofia! It would be one thing if I (a daily user of WindowsXP and Mac) had this opinion all by myself. But it's not just me; it's basically every person who's ever switched. I'm not kidding about the online evidence: Vista is so bad that corporate customers are demanding that PC vendors "downgrade" to XP or they won't buy more machines. It's a fiasco for Microsoft. Even Bill Gates has (obliquely) admitted it.

    Meanwhile the internet is filled with "switchers" who are going insane because they love the new machines so much. My friend Vinny bought his MacBook Pro and called me up to say, "I love it! It's what computing should be." (Vinny is a programmer by trade who's published a few Tomb Raider cheat guides, so he's not exactly a computer novice.)

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  43. Wow! That's a hell of a sales pitch JPX! lol

    Even though I try not to influence people into going for a MAC, I own two so it tells you where I stand on the subject!

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  44. And btw, Sofia will box anyone who doesn't own a MAC!!!

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  45. Sorry, fantac, I'm on a roll! All the ads etc. emphasize ease of use, simplicity, etc. but never
    forget that Apple's technology is the most advanced on the planet.
    I've been heavily into computers in dozens of different ways for a
    long time, and I favor Macs because of their sophistication and high- end capabilities in addition to the elegant simplicity of the interfaces and tools. More hardcore programmers use Macs because UNIX is part of the most serious computing traditions (while Windows has always been it's own separate continent, by design; Macs and LINUX machines are far more similar than either is to Windows).

    They say "the Cult of Mac" or "the Cult of Steve Jobs," and I guess
    their right, except that it's a RATIONAL cult (not a spiritual one).

    Apple isn't just a computer company; it's an ecosystem, a philosophy, a strategy, a powerful business force, an icon of intelligence and zen clarity. The further you go into the Apple realm, the more you'll
    learn and the more you'll appreciate it.

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  46. ...it goes without saying that all your printers, mice, keyboards,
    monitors, cameras, iPods etc. etc. will work with a Mac the moment
    you plug them in.

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  47. JPX continues his rant,

    ...about Macs is: NO VIRUSES. NO SECURITY BREACHES. NO RUNAWAY AD- POPUPS. EVER, EVER, EVER.I have had Macs for years and none of them have any anti-virus software AT ALL. And none of them have EVER been infected with ANYTHING.There are some who claim that Macs don't get viruses because "hackers don't care about the Mac market; it's too small." This is nonsense. Macs don't get viruses because the operating system is secure. There are no .DLL files; no registry, there is no ActiveX; there is no way for an email or a web page to install something on the machine without your explicit permission -- your fingers on the keyboard saying, "Yes, install this specfic thing." There has never been a Mac virus (except in the old, pre-OS X days, before 2002).My WIndowsXP machine has two separate anti-spam programs installed ("Ad-Aware" and "Spybot") and I've STILL had to re-install Windows twice on this machine, because, take it from me, once a PC becomes infected, you really have no choice but to wipe it and re-install.

    JPX is tired.

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  48. SADDEST. BIRTHDAY. SONG. EVAR.

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  49. fantac, and right you are. i'm the biddie from the city (thats my boxing name. i wish i lived someplace called "pahluser" so i could be the bruiser from...nevermind)


    take it from me, fantac, and jpx: fear not. you can (and i did) use everything right out of the box. it is COMPLETELY intuitive. there is almost zero "learning" involved here. i'm a tech idiot and i'm a whiz on my mac.

    of course if all you care about is playing unreal tournament....


    meh.

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  50. so jpx, what type of computer do you use personally? pc or mac?

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  51. Thank you all for not [yet?] converting this to MP3 and posting it here. No one has a problem with the track being made an MP3 for personal use [read: not for distributing; you give it to no one].

    It's just that tapers are very picky folks and they don't like to have 'diluted' versions of their recordings available. I think it's understandable, and even if you do think it's extreme, suck it up; it's the only way we'll keep getting high quality shows like this one and the Prayer Tour soundboard.

    Again, thanks for not posting this in MP3 [yet].

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  52. my life is in your hands, folks. i'm currently up at the 53rd floor of my office building, out on the ledge (on wifi of course). if, in the next 3 hours, anybody posts a link to the mp3 here on this page, i will jump.

    please, please, folks...THINK before you share this mp3!!! you'll have my immortal soul chasing after you!

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  53. You're the man, monkeybutt. Fight the good fight! Keep the traders happy and they'll return the favor.

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  54. Monkeybutt, PC at work and iMac at home.

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  55. i'm an IT professional... mac is a cult pure and simple... full of elitist... whatever...
    people with more dollars than sense.

    it works fine... just isn't worth all of the hassle's involved in simple things... the same simple things that windows can do 112 different ways... (yes i counted them all personally...)

    of course it runs faster and more stable... when you can only run things approved by big brother... on hardware that big brother says you can use...
    but i like choices.
    and i'd pick ubuntu or something else free before i'd pay money to join your cult.

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  56. Zap, you don't make any points at all. Re-read all of my above posts and come up with an argument that makes sense. I'm not elitist at all. I did my homework and Macs are simply better. Have fun with your computer viruses and driver incompatibility problems. I've never had a single problem with my Mac, unlike the endless problems I have with my PC.

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  57. zap - Are you serious? Because you feel Mac's about a "cult", you won't use what they sell? That's your argument?

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  58. ok, still up on the 53rd floor. changing my tune, though. make all the mp3s and share them as much as you want.

    any more mac vs. pc arguments? i'm jumping. please, remember your dear friend monkeybutt...

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  59. I understand that there are tech geek purists who don't like their recordings made into mp3s and distributed because the quality is not as good, but i do think it's an extreme philosophy. i am not of the tech geek purist world and never will be. i just likes my music. of course, i do like good quality... but imo, if mp3s make the music more accessible to more people, then i don't see the big deal.

    not intending this to be rude toward anyway. jmho.

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  60. Mossberg: Apple’s Mac OS X Leopard faster, better, far less prone to malware than Windows Vista

    Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:58 PM EDT

    The Wall Street Journal's Walter S. Mossberg is out with his most recent personal computer buyer's guide.

    Mossberg writes, "As always, this is a general guide aimed at mainstream, nontechnical consumers who dwell on common tasks such as email, instant messaging and surfing the Web; managing and lightly editing photos, videos and music; and using basic office applications. It is not intended for heavy gamers, video producers or corporate buyers."

    "In my view, Apple’s Leopard operating system is faster, better and far less prone to malicious software than Microsoft’s Vista operating system. And the Mac laptops also come with better built-in software. The $1,099 MacBook is a solid, fairly priced machine, and the $1,999 MacBook Pro is even better. Both also can run Windows," Mossberg writes. "But Windows laptops are often less expensive..."

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  61. Microsoft already giving up on Windows Vista

    Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 11:18 AM EDT

    "It seems that Microsoft is already giving up on Vista and is setting up business users to switch from XP to Windows 7," Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols writes for eWeek.

    "Technically, Vista is pure misery. It eats system resources like an elephant does peanuts, Windows applications break and its so-called improved security is a joke. I know it. You know it. Even Microsoft's most devoted yes-men know it--although they won't admit it--and perhaps Microsoft knows it as well," Vaughan-Nichols writes.

    Vaughan-Nichols asks, "What else can explain why Microsoft is now leaking news about Windows 7, the next version of Windows?"

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  62. Monkeybutt, just Google "Windows VISTA problems" and you'll be horrified.

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  63. Just... What's the link with "Faith from the Shrine" again? Oh right! The file type! Sorry I got lost...

    he he

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  64. Good morning, everyone! Thank you for your answeres to my question about how to open FLAC files. I'll try it later.:-D

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  65. my argument is simply that there is more software available to windows users, and thus more choices... because the choices aren't all closed source some are more prone to errors than others... its a small price to pay... the reason you dont have driver issues on your mac is because you can only use hardware that has been approved by apple... again limiting choice...
    i won't pay to be part of the mac cult... really... honestly... its that simple... never said that they were bad or unusable... just that people pay too much money and for that they get limited on their choices... as long as you like to do things the apple way... the apple works fine... very nearly all the apple hardware is available to the pc... and tons more... so you can make a faster pc... so the "fast" argument is weak... and if its your OS that's slowing you down ubuntu is free...ubuntu and the open source community give you way more choices than apple... sorry you disagree... what self respecting programmer is going to build a virus to attack mac... no glory in that... whhoooo i'm going to snare a few macs out of that 10-20% market share... of course they are going after the other 80%...duh.

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  66. Can you please move the mac vs. pc squabble off the comments section of the board, it's really not relevant at all to the conversation at hand.

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  67. why is everyone going so crazy over faith?

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  68. Milton - It's Faith. It's a beautiful song. It's rarely played these days. It's the Simon bday version. 'nuff said.

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  69. hey Craig I'm not saying is not a good song and I was there yesterday and heard the b day shout out to Simon. I was just wondering why everyone on here was going crazy that it was played, so I'm guess its because it's not played often.

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  70. by the way it's still Milton I just changed by name. and thanks a lot for your site I found it about five years ago and it's still great.

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  71. sickboy milton: i did not care for faith at all until i heard it played live in 04. a lot of seemingly lifeless cure songs are so vivid live that it changes your whole perspective on them. if you ever see faith live, you will understand. also, it's rarely played, which makes it more desirable.

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  72. THANKS!!!!! my camera died and i wasn't able to get this. please post more.

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  73. I downloaded WinAmp and the file played with no issues at all! It is awesome, a very nice version. Hopefully now it will get played some more like June 15th in Atlanta!

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  74. zap, um, perhaps you've been living in a cave for the past several years, but Macs can now use the Windows operating system. No, I'm not making that up. Seriously. Get out of your cave and check it out for yourself.

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  75. From mcdailynews, Earlier this year, after 17 years of Windows (retch), Alison finally made his move to Macintosh. Better late than never, right? After his first three months, Alison went "from curious about Macs to a newbie user to a switcher that promotes Macs to strangers." In other words, the usual.

    Alison continues, "There are however an increasing number of people that are moving to Macs now - many of them people like me that hated Macs at one time. I believe there are lots of reasons for this, not the least of which is that people that are running Windows XP are faced with an upgrade to Vista as their next logical step and feel that maybe it's okay to consider a Mac since they have to go through a full operating system refresh anyway."

    "One of the reasons I was not interested in Macs for a very long time was that I clung to many facts about the Mac that I felt eliminated it from contention. Well, as with many things in life it turns out the facts that I knew about the Mac were either hopelessly outdated or simply myths," Alison writes. "What I wanted to do was tell you the ones that I was aware of and often cited when I dismissed Macs in the past."

    Allison's list of common Mac myths:
    • Mac's only use a single mouse button
    • There are not that many applications for Macs
    • Macs are closed machines that cannot be expanded
    • Macs don't work well with Windows machines on a network
    • Macs are more expensive
    • Macs can't run my Windows software
    • Macs are mouse centered machines. You constantly have to grab the mouse.

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  76. Thanks to people who provide all the tips for playing FLAC on a PC. I've tried winamp and it worked on my computer.

    And I'd hate to think that I started the debate of FLAC vs. MP3. :/ Cat, if you see this - I can help you if you email me. I believe you have my email?

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  77. And it's funny that no one seems to be commenting on the song itself? The quality is great (again, big thanks to Brian), and I totally love how Robert sings happy birthday at the end. This is the saddest birthday song ever but it's also very sweet.

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  78. jenny, give me your e-mail address again, please. :-)
    or you can e-mail me at fleurdumal666@gmail.com.

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  79. Got that, Cat! :) Will send you a message later.

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  80. i know mac's can "run windows" and they need to... beacuse a mac by itself misses out on alot of things...why else would they need to run windows... thanks for making my point.

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  81. no, macs never need to run windows. windows debases everything. the only reason macs can't play everything is cuz the software developers create with windows in mind.

    booooo windows!

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  82. Does anyone remember that version of Faith Robert did when he heard about the whole Tiananman Square incident back in '89? Riveting I tells ya.

    If anyone wants to pass along an Mp3 version of Brians Faith send it to samsweetster@gmail.com. I deeply respect his desire to not have it distributed publicly but it would simply be for my personal use and I'm not hip on downloading codecs/programs to convert one song (I will if I have to). I not, I respect that too. PC/Mac users...can't we all just get along?!

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  83. b ... I just dl your version. Amazing!! Thank you so much for it :)

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  84. die thread die...

    i mean faith is an awesome track.

    use your apples... and your energy fighting the machine...
    in the end the cure still rules.

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  85. Ok, I must be an idiot, because I click on the link and all I get are photos of single women and a descrpition of the file, but no visable download link. What am I missing here???

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  86. Nevermind...I see it above now, where you have to enter the code.

    Can't wait to hear this sucker!

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  87. I wish so badly I was at that concert. Hearing Faith live would make my life complete. I am seriously in awe of this band over and over and over again, almost where it distorts my perspective on all other music altogether.'

    I seriously hope I didn't see them for my last time on May 23rd.

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  88. Thanks to Jenny's help, I am able to listen to the Faith - Happy Birthday Simon Version.

    It's fucking wonderful! Here we are bickering about Mac versus PC and this stunning version is just begging for more comments! I love how he weaves in Happy Birthday, and the 2 Late lyrics, and his voice sounds angry and angsty throughout the song. Did no one else notice this?? Amazing!

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  89. Cat – it’s no problem! Glad you finally hear it. :)

    I agree that Robert sounds angry and angsty in this version. It sounds so moving – only Robert can sing like this. How I’d love to see Simon’s face when Robert goes “happy birthday, dear Simon”! I envy those who got to see it happening.

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  90. I just clicked on the FLAC link and my Yahoo Music Jukebox seems to be opening it . . . just very slowly. Any chance of getting that old school encore on FLAC?

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  91. Oh Brian you are a sweet heart for the upload yet I hear it for the first few guitar riffs and then silence. AHHH..how frustrating. Please help. I have a mac and am using the app. VLC. Any suggestions?
    Ms. Puj

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  92. I downloaded Winamp and it worked perfectly. The sound is amazingly great!

    I've never heard such a solemn and beautiful "Happy Birthday" before. I was so moved that I had some tears on my eyes. Awesome! Thanks again for sharing this wonderful file with us, Brian.

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  93. ahhhhhh... faith!! thanks a lot for sharing.. it reminds me of a very old tape i've got.. don't know which date. there they played a very dark version of "forever" in dedication to Simons 20th (!!) birthday... "the candles on the cake, waiting to be blown. wish i was an other...."

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  94. I converted to 320kbps mp3. Not as good as FLAC of course, but still a better quality mp3 than most. I will e-mail a copy to anyone as long as it's for them to hear on their iPod or iTunes or just themselves. Don't go about distributing.

    Then again, I feel like I'm distributing. All I want to do is send it to people that don't have or understand the means to play a FLAC file.

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  95. Wow. I finally listened to this, and the "Happy Birthday" part just about killed me. So sweet; so haunting. I can't put it into words right now, but...damn, I hate crying at work! :P

    Thanks again, Brian, for sharing.

    So beautiful it hurts...too beautiful for words...

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  96. P.S. This sucks, too, because my birthday is this Friday, so whenever anyone wishes me a Happy Birthday this week I just know I am going to hear Robert singing "Happy Birthday, dear Simon" in my head and burst into tears! ;)

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  97. happy birthday v! how old if i may ask?

    and yeah, this version of faith is the cat's tits.

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  98. Clockwise: Oh no, I teared up a little when you said Happy Birthday! Thank you. :)

    No, I don't mind you asking at all. I will be the big 3-0 on Friday.

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  99. The big 3-0 eh? Congrats! I hit the big 4-0 in 07.

    But yeah, cool. Now you're all grown up, V! No excuses anymore, and no more crying! Grown-ups don't cry.

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  100. *sniffsniff* But...but...I thought it was boys who don't cry, not grownups! Oh well, I'll try to be all growed up, but no promises. :)

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  101. happy early bday V!

    thanks so much for sharing brian, im saddened that i missd out on such a show in my hometown. it kicked san jose show's ass =(. it was great meeting you, i hope to see you at another cure show someday again!

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  102. Thank you, DJ Scribbles!! :D

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