"A friend of mine who is running a french musical website has received an e-mail from Polydor France. The tittle of the new album is "Dream 13"..." (Thanks Chris)
i like it. it's rather esoteric, reminds me of one of their older song titles like 'the upstairs room.' yeah, i like it alot. hope that's it. better than 4:13 or 13.
Dream 13 sounds like the name of the Italian dance group Eiffel 65. That really doesn't sound like the kind of image that Robert and Co. probably want to convey.
I liked 4:13 better, both for the band/album symbolism and for the time aspect. But then, I'm a sucker for time references.
Dream 13 - eh.
I really wish Robert would just go ahead and make the album a double, and do what he said he would do with it years ago - have one CD called Good Dream, full of bright poppy tunes, and one CD called Bad Dream, full of depressing dirges and gloomy Cure-metal.
The same amount of imagination was required to name their last album "The Cure".
Hmm, it's the 13th album! That's totally meaningless, but let's fixate on it for some reason! And what's a word that's in a lot of Cure songs? Uhh, Dream! Okay, that's a wrap, seeyalater!
There is a list of words that have ceased to have any power, they just sound completely cliched and hollow. My advice to Robert Smith (which I'm sure he's eagerly awaiting) is to try next time not to use any of the following words anywhere in his music. I know, it seems hard, but believe me, lots of songs don't use these words!! Seriously!
Love Dream Wish Perfect World
Bonus points for not using "he said," "she said," "I said" or "you said."
You know what else annoys me about "13"? It's not only completely inconsequential that it's the 13th Cure album, it's also tediously self-regarding. What's all this self-referencing about, anyway? I'm tired of hearing R.S. congratulate himself by saying the new songs are very Cure-like. Bloodflowers was the conclusion of a supposed trilogy, a self-consciously Cure-ish album. The Cure was supposed to be some kind of summation of all the sides of the group, a pastiche of everything they'd done before (but with dull songwriting and horrible production). I have to say, some of the new songs really do sound rejuvenated and purposeful, but there's still this tendency to express something in terms of The Cure's reclusive, self-regarding universe.
I kind of think they've overdone this 13 obsession. Something happening on the 13th of the month until sometime in 2014. We get it...Its the 13th album.
I think it taking all of his will power to not give the new album a title called: "Did I Mention This is Our 13th Album?"
My initial thought was that "Dream 13" works as an album title, but the more I look at it the more it just seems a little... cliched. Predictable even. I hope this really is just a "rumour", I know our Mr. Smith can come up with a better title than that.
Well I guess the 13 obsession stems from Robert's tendency to denying that the band is "Goth", yet to revel in all things spooky and macabre (typically associated with being a bit Goth), and of course 13 is supposed to be an unlucky number. Bizarrely the only Friday that is a 13th in the release schedule is in June.
Let us not forget "The 13th" from Wild Mood Swings too. Was that supposed to be their 13th single or something? Can't have been. They must have released more than that. Was that album their 13th release including live albums and stuff?
Anyway, I think the title 'Dream 13' is a bit cliched. The last album was supposedly all about good dreams and bad dreams with Robert getting his nieces and nephews to draw pictures on those themes as stimulus for him (and album artwork!), so I agree that the suggestion that different themes had been explored would make the whole affair somewhat more compelling.
HOWEVER, with songs like Sleep When I'm Dead, Underneath The Stars and Freakshow likely to be included on the album, I am tempted to invoke yet another cliche and say that it all seems very much like a "return to form", and in that respect I don't care WHAT the album is called!
LOL Jpx. Except I love The 13th. But I realize that song and album is most Cure fans' worst nightmare. :-)
If you think about it, Wish, and Faith are cliched names too, but they conjure something completely different and fresh as Cure album titles. Somehow a collection of songs called Wish or Faith MEANS something, whereas the words themselves are empty abstractions.
SO, if this album is really as chillingly blisteringly rockin' as it is portending to be, then Dream 13 could be one cool-ass title after all.
But as I said in my prev post, the last albums was supposedly all about dreams as well, so it would be good to move on...
Sleep When I'm Dead is the best track we've heard so far (with Underneath The Stars as a close follow-up), so why not go for one of those?
Ultimatley, who knows what the stimulus was this time round, but The Science of Sleep would probably be a cool title to pull together all those night time and sleep references - incuding "push me upstairs and pull me to bed".
After pondering this for a while, I've figured out why I dislike "Dream 13" so much; anything that rhymes just sounds naff. Kinda like something a manufactured pop band would come up with. Now "Thirteenth Dream" on the other hand, I'd be happy with. Maybe it's just me...
Then another "Dream Tour" next year?
ReplyDeleteYeah, that title doesn't make sense.
ReplyDeletei like it. it's rather esoteric, reminds me of one of their older song titles like 'the upstairs room.' yeah, i like it alot. hope that's it. better than 4:13 or 13.
ReplyDeleteIt's definitely the best of those 3 options.
ReplyDeletethey should call it 13 monkeys on the track.... yeah thats the ticket
ReplyDeletei'd prefer the monkey thing...
ReplyDeletehonestly.
please no more "dream" or "wish" or anything like that.
be innovative ;-)
I like it but it does remind me a bit of Deep 13 from Mystery Science Theater 3000. But, you know, in a good way...
ReplyDeletei know. how about 'chinese democracy' ?
ReplyDeleteDream 13 sounds like the name of the Italian dance group Eiffel 65. That really doesn't sound like the kind of image that Robert and Co. probably want to convey.
ReplyDeleteyeah it's not that creative honestly...
ReplyDeleteI like it..Not everything will be earth shattering...
ReplyDeleteI prefer just 13
ReplyDeleteI liked 4:13 better, both for the band/album symbolism and for the time aspect. But then, I'm a sucker for time references.
ReplyDeleteDream 13 - eh.
I really wish Robert would just go ahead and make the album a double, and do what he said he would do with it years ago - have one CD called Good Dream, full of bright poppy tunes, and one CD called Bad Dream, full of depressing dirges and gloomy Cure-metal.
ok- no one else comment! there are now THIRTEEN comments in this thread!!!
ReplyDeletewait, don't publish! stop! darnit---
corrosive, i'd even do it for free. :-)
ReplyDeletei think the album should be called 13 Monkeybutts.
clockwise dream?
ReplyDeleteMonkeybutt Dreams
ReplyDeleteLOL JPX!
ReplyDeleteBest title idea yet.
Although Clockwise Dream would be pretty damn cool too.
13 wishful dreams...yeah....YEAHHHHH!!!
ReplyDeletedream 13? dont love it, dont hate it...
The more I muse on the title, the more I like it, but I'm thinking that won't be the final title.
ReplyDeletejust to continue with the hard to make real and good cure songs, they should call it THE CURE 2
ReplyDeletethe cure II: electric boogaloo
ReplyDeleteyou couldn't pay me to buy it.
Boring boring boring!
ReplyDeleteThe same amount of imagination was required to name their last album "The Cure".
Hmm, it's the 13th album! That's totally meaningless, but let's fixate on it for some reason! And what's a word that's in a lot of Cure songs? Uhh, Dream! Okay, that's a wrap, seeyalater!
There is a list of words that have ceased to have any power, they just sound completely cliched and hollow. My advice to Robert Smith (which I'm sure he's eagerly awaiting) is to try next time not to use any of the following words anywhere in his music. I know, it seems hard, but believe me, lots of songs don't use these words!! Seriously!
Love
Dream
Wish
Perfect
World
Bonus points for not using "he said," "she said," "I said" or "you said."
sofia: is it true boogaloo shrimp is playing keys on this album?
ReplyDeleteYou know what else annoys me about "13"? It's not only completely inconsequential that it's the 13th Cure album, it's also tediously self-regarding. What's all this self-referencing about, anyway? I'm tired of hearing R.S. congratulate himself by saying the new songs are very Cure-like. Bloodflowers was the conclusion of a supposed trilogy, a self-consciously Cure-ish album. The Cure was supposed to be some kind of summation of all the sides of the group, a pastiche of everything they'd done before (but with dull songwriting and horrible production). I have to say, some of the new songs really do sound rejuvenated and purposeful, but there's still this tendency to express something in terms of The Cure's reclusive, self-regarding universe.
ReplyDeletemonkeybutt, boogaloo shrimp on keys. shabba-doo on the marimba.
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ReplyDeleteI kind of think they've overdone this 13 obsession. Something happening on the 13th of the month until sometime in 2014. We get it...Its the 13th album.
ReplyDeleteI think it taking all of his will power to not give the new album a title called: "Did I Mention This is Our 13th Album?"
I'm not too bothered about the whole 13 thing as it gives the album a gimmick which makes it stand out a bit.
ReplyDeleteI don't like the fact that the album is going to be called 13 or 13 something (or something 13).
Its not very far seeing IMO. What if they release a 14th or 15th album? Whats so special about 13? It's not like 10,15,20 or anything like that.
the thing i like about it, overplayed 13isms aside, is the mystery. the 13th dream- very kate bush almost. i really dig it.
ReplyDeleteMy initial thought was that "Dream 13" works as an album title, but the more I look at it the more it just seems a little... cliched. Predictable even. I hope this really is just a "rumour", I know our Mr. Smith can come up with a better title than that.
ReplyDeleteAs long as there will be songs like Underneath The Stars on the album I will be happy!
ReplyDeleteWell I guess the 13 obsession stems from Robert's tendency to denying that the band is "Goth", yet to revel in all things spooky and macabre (typically associated with being a bit Goth), and of course 13 is supposed to be an unlucky number. Bizarrely the only Friday that is a 13th in the release schedule is in June.
ReplyDeleteLet us not forget "The 13th" from Wild Mood Swings too. Was that supposed to be their 13th single or something? Can't have been. They must have released more than that. Was that album their 13th release including live albums and stuff?
Anyway, I think the title 'Dream 13' is a bit cliched. The last album was supposedly all about good dreams and bad dreams with Robert getting his nieces and nephews to draw pictures on those themes as stimulus for him (and album artwork!), so I agree that the suggestion that different themes had been explored would make the whole affair somewhat more compelling.
HOWEVER, with songs like Sleep When I'm Dead, Underneath The Stars and Freakshow likely to be included on the album, I am tempted to invoke yet another cliche and say that it all seems very much like a "return to form", and in that respect I don't care WHAT the album is called!
Also, Dream 13 just reminds one of "The 13th", and nobody should ever have to endure that memory.
ReplyDeleteLOL Jpx. Except I love The 13th. But I realize that song and album is most Cure fans' worst nightmare. :-)
ReplyDeleteIf you think about it, Wish, and Faith are cliched names too, but they conjure something completely different and fresh as Cure album titles. Somehow a collection of songs called Wish or Faith MEANS something, whereas the words themselves are empty abstractions.
SO, if this album is really as chillingly blisteringly rockin' as it is portending to be, then Dream 13 could be one cool-ass title after all.
I'd prefer, "chillingly blisteringly rockin'" as the new title =)
ReplyDeleteeeeeeeeee. "blisteringly" no i don't like that adverb.
ReplyDeleteBut as I said in my prev post, the last albums was supposedly all about dreams as well, so it would be good to move on...
ReplyDeleteSleep When I'm Dead is the best track we've heard so far (with Underneath The Stars as a close follow-up), so why not go for one of those?
Ultimatley, who knows what the stimulus was this time round, but The Science of Sleep would probably be a cool title to pull together all those night time and sleep references - incuding "push me upstairs and pull me to bed".
"The Science of Sleep" just reminds me of that awful movie.
ReplyDeleteyeah, i wouldn't like science of sleep. i'd see big horses made of yarn.
ReplyDelete...and over-sized rubber-looking hands!
ReplyDeleteok, top five WORST things you think they could name the new album! i'll start:
ReplyDelete-pornography 2: hot teenage cumsluts
-the case of the missing mascara
-rainbow dreams and moonbeams
-deathbears on the attack
-wild mood swings
your turn!
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ReplyDelete:D
ReplyDeletemy vote is for 'the case of the missing mascara'!
i think that was probably the least read hardy boys novel.
my boyfriend would like to call the album "Bloated Decomposing Clownface"
ReplyDeletebut i suppose thats what i get for screaming out robert smith's name during sex.
you do that too sofia? thought i was the only one...
ReplyDeleteOther titles I could do without,
ReplyDelete"Doing the Hansa...Again!"
"CrackheadFace"
"Another Man in My Mouth"
"The 14th"
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ReplyDeleteAfter pondering this for a while, I've figured out why I dislike "Dream 13" so much; anything that rhymes just sounds naff. Kinda like something a manufactured pop band would come up with. Now "Thirteenth Dream" on the other hand, I'd be happy with. Maybe it's just me...
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