La Segunda ran a bit of an interview today with our friend David Fargier (aka davidaftertherain), the author of 2 books ("After The Rain...The Cure" and "One Hundred Songs: The Dark Side of the Mood?") about The Cure. They only used a bit of that interview, so David let us post the rest here:
How and when did you became a fan of The Cure? What caught your attention?
was a long long time ago that makes me feel like a dinosaur ! And in a
way the strength of their art explains the longevity of my passion which
never faded. It was in 1983. An indie radio was broadcasting part of a
concert in Holland. I just caught the very end of it and heard
"Charlotte Sometimes". A few days before I'd seen Bowie's video "Ashes
To Ashes" and everything changed in one week. At that time I was a
teenager listening to crap mainstream pop songs. I was just entering
another universe. A universe of pure art.
At first -specially
with "Seventeen seconds", "Faith" and "Pornography"- they were very dark
(for, in some way, they were continuing doing what Joy Division left
unfinished...). What can you tell me about this period? Do you like it
in particular? What do you think of what came later?
It was a
very interesting and exciting period following the punk movement. So
many talented and original bands were coming out : Joy Division and then
New Order, Psychedelic Furs, The Stranglers, Siouxsie And The Banshees,
Echo And The Bunnymen... I was really into that dark and romantic stuff
but The Cure had something else. I'd say a wider range of music and
atmospheres since the very beginning. They were able to play beautiful
sad songs but also more upbeat punk-pop. That's probably why I never
felt into this kind of nostalgia, saying "The Cure used to be good but
now they sell out, they became too commercial". Every album brought
something different, exploring new fields until the last LP "4:13
Dream". I've never been hoping they would release "Pornography 2".
What's your appreciation of The Cure's lyrics? Do you like Robert Smith as a writer?
is a fantastic songwriter, still a bit underrated. The lyrics are
versatile, inspired, full of literature references but it's never a
pale copy of what's been done before. What is quite fascinating is
Robert's capability to reinvent his own music and lyrics style.
Sometimes it's very simple, even naïve. Sometimes it's really deep with
several levels of meaning. Universal and unique at the same time. No
moralistic messages but incredibly smart like "Us Or Them". I love his
way of mixing humour and dark lines, writing a pop song with painful or
emotional lyrics like "Lovesong".
Robert Smith is a very
enigmatic character. There are a lot of rumors about him, like he's
afraid of airplanes and spiders. What can you say about him? Did you
ever get to know him personally?
He's probably a normal guy, like
any human being. He lies a lot, changes his mind. He has his own fears
but he evolved a lot in many aspects including phobias. I met him once
in Paris. He's just a cool guy, very careful, paying great attention to
what you're saying. We talked a bit about my upcoming Cure book. It was
just smooth and funny. He's not shy but I felt a bit he was more
impressed than I was!
Tell me about your books and the process of writing each one of them.
Cure opened my mind to many things and helped me building who I am. At
first I wanted to build an internet site but I started to write and
write and it became something too long for an internet format. That's
how the first book kind of showed up, "After The Rain... The Cure". I
got in touch with a graphist in Quebec, Pascal Milette, and other fans
translated it into 4 other languages. French, English and German have
already been released and if a publisher is interested, Portuguese and
Spanish could come out too. The second book "One Hundred Songs : The
Dark Side Of The Mood?", done with my friend Jean-Christophe Bétrisey,
contains lyrics translated into French.
What do you think of The Cure of 2013. Are they in a good moment?
saw them 40 times live and love every era. But I have to say that the
present line-up is impressive. The SummerCure Tour was just amazing. The
sound was perfect, very well balanced. I wouldn't change anything.
Robert's voice is clearer than ever. The guys are very close to each
others. I just would love they'd play more songs from the last 3 albums
even if they've been less popular.
Do you know something about their visit to Buenos Aires in 1987? It was very chaotic.
that much but I remember the promoter had sold much more tickets than
the venue could hold. I read that Robert had been afraid of the dementia
this situation turned into. And one can figure out why.
the "dark" movement is very very big (a journalist of the "New Musical
Express" wrote about this many years ago). Do you have a clue why this
happens? Do you think The Cure gets to people's soul when they are
passing through hard times?
I can't speak for other people and I
have to say I'm a bit surprised by the success The Cure have had in
Latin countries. Their music is not desperate at all. It's a myth it is.
But Robert writes about the whole feelings we can all experience.
That's the universal aspect I was talking about. Hope, sadness, love,
friendship disappointment, fear, anger... The Cure are not only playing
the soundtrack of my life but of everybody's life.
It would be nice if you tell me a little bit about yourself for the interview.
big and so interesting. Trying to find my path. I work as a Human Resources manager in a big company. I enjoy my job but would love my
side projects to take the biggest part. Writing songs for talented
artists is something I have loved. Releasing books about The Cure,
working on another one about Björk was quite exciting. Now I'd love to
build a festival in support of Handicap International and Amnesty
International. It's a dream that's slowly taking shape. It's a long way
to achieve such a project but a few people make me believe it could
happen. To wish impossible things is what I learnt from The Cure, so... (Thanks David)