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Tuesday, February 4, 2014

What we might expect from '4:14 Scream'

Going back through some of the old 4:13 era articles and some more recent stuff, and thought it would be fun to put together a list of songs that might be included on 4:14 Scream.

Songs that could be on it:
A Boy I Never Knew
Please Come Home
(Both of these were from 'The Cure' sessions, but said to have been re-recorded during the '4:13' sessions)

Strum (from 'The Cure' sessions)
Lusting Here In Your Mind (from the '4:13' sessions)
Christmas Without You (from the '4:13' sessions)
An unknown number of instrumentals (from the '4:13' sessions)

Spot Marks The X (from the '4:13' sessions)
16 (from the '4:13' sessions)
Thanks to fmjews for finding these titles from an early tracklist that Ideal Copy had up in 2008. Not sure if these are missing songs or just working titles for songs we already have.


Robert speaking with XL (June 2012): "But for sure, before our public farewell, we'll release the record. It'll be the continuation of the previous one and it'll be accompanied by the DVD of our show in Paris in 2008 and perhaps by a live show from this summer. It will be slow and full of emotions. The typical Cure-sound."

On 'Lusting Here In Your Mind', Robert told Billboard (July 2007), "It sounds suspiciously like heavy rock to me". He also mentioned 3 songs were old Cure demos from the 80s that they revamped. We know 'Sleep When I'm Dead' (from The Head on the Door era) was one, but what are the other two?

In an NME interview (March 2012), Robert said he "has 12 tracks, including instrumentals, that he wants to release, but only as part of a double 4:13 album." In that same interview, he says 4 songs on '4:13' should be on '4:14', and 4 on '4:14' should be on '4:13'. Hoping Robert will tell us which ones should be switched, then we can all make proper versions of the albums, the way he originally envisioned them.

Robert told UOL (April 2013) the following: "my personal favorite is the album that we're about to launch. I think it's definitely my favorite kind of music. There's a song on the album called "Christmas Without You". It's the best song I've ever written."
The song (which was said to be about the death of a close friend) was recorded during the '4:13 Dream' sessions. In this Blender interview (March 2008), Robert called it “one of the most unhappy things we’ve ever recorded”, and told Billboard (July 2007), "That's not a very happy song".

Can't find the interview,  but Robert did say that there would be more keyboards on '4:14' than there were on '4:13'.

Overall, the tone of the album should be "dark", as it was always referred to as the darker half of the 2 albums. However, as Robert said, he had to switch a few songs up, to give '4:13' a bit more balance, so it's not out of the question that there could be some lighter moments on this one. Just hope and pray there's not another 'The Only One' on this! :)

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    1. Thanks! Really getting excited about finally hearing the "Dark Album".

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  2. Yeah, ABINK needs to make an appearance!

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    1. I think it's gotta be now or never for that one.

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    2. Don't forget that Robert and Co need to keep some songs back so they can repackage the Deluxe Versions. Or maybe hold it back for Join The Dots Part II.

      Seriously, you know at some point we are going to see yet another (and well deserved) More Greatest Hits record, which will include all the singles since Bloodflowers up to the present.

      That just makes sense...YO!

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    3. ABINK is very difficult to play for Jason... we all remember that famous video of Robert being angry with Jason because he screwed up the drum intro.
      Robert even went to talk something to Simon during the song... they both looked at the scared Jason... :/

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  3. The 4 songs from 4:13 that should be on 4:14 - I'm thinking Underneath The Stars, Switch, The Scream and It's Over (Baby Rag Dog Book would have been such a better title for that song!)
    Or maybe The Only One of course Craig :)

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    1. Yeah, The Scream seems like an obvious choice, given the title of this new one.

      Interesting point about UTS and It's Over. If they were intended for Scream, not Dream, I wonder what would have opened and closed Dream? And will they seem out of place on Scream?

      Or maybe Robert changes it up and opens & closes with an instrumental? I could go for that.

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    2. Opening and closing with an instrumental would be great :)
      Fair point about UTS and Its Over being the opener and closer on Dream but hard to see many other songs fitting on a 'darker' album don't you think?

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    3. 'UTS' on the dark album? No. More like 'SWID', 'Switch', 'The Scream', and 'It's Over'.

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  4. My deep wish 4 a Disintegration Part II ?

    Some xclusives things maybe? (Works in Progress from the New Cure Album) posted few days back on the FB of Eden Gallup...these snippets realy sound like Cure songs & not from Eden Gallup's group !!

    [url]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152178834824530&set=vb.45631044529&type=2&theater[/url]

    [url]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152182001014530&set=vb.45631044529&type=2&theater[/url]

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    1. Nothing to do with The Cure. Eden is recording with his own band.

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    2. And this isn't a "new" album. It was recorded back in 07/08.

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    3. My wish is also a Disintegration part 2.

      Songs like Homesick, Last Dance are so good....i know its impossible to wish but maybe..

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    5. Just wanted to add that I just asked Eden about those clips and he confirmed they are demos for new Violet Vendetta songs. Will either be an EP or full album.

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    6. No Boris = No Disintegration II

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  5. The only one is not that bad...There are worst songs on 4:13....

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    1. Name one! I dare you! You can't, because nothing is that awful. :)

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    2. Personally, I prefer "The Only One" over "This, Here and Now, With You", but not by much. I also LOVE "The Reasons Why"... so, what the hell do I know? ;)

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    3. Freakshow ...or older songs like mint car! Anyway, De gustibus non est disputandum

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    4. Freakshow ...or older songs like mint car! Anyway, De gustibus non est disputandum

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    5. the only one is a pop song that maybe doesn't fit with the rest of 4:13, although i prefer that song than most of the rest of the album. Freakshow to me is one of the worst Cure song.

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    6. I am completely alone here: "The Only One" is my favorite song on 4:13 (personally I can´t stand this name for an album), followed closely by "The Reasons Why" and "UTS". The worst ones I consider "The Hungry Ghost", "It´s Over" and the worst Cure song ever, "Freakshow".

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    7. Me either, I don't share that opinion about "The Only One", to me isn't great but not bad. Really bad song is "The Scream".

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    8. Agree - The Scream. Just can't bare to hear it again. Ever.

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    9. "The Scream" such a bad song
      "Freakshow" awful
      "Switch" bad song
      "This. Here and Now. With You" awful poor
      "Sleep When I'm Dead" poor
      "Scream" awful
      "It's Over" poor

      The Only One is not a problem

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    10. Here is my opinion:

      "The Scream" better live, but a good tune
      "Freakshow" - perfect silly pop song
      "Switch" - It grew on me
      "This. Here and Now. With You" - Love it..great lyrics!
      "Sleep When I'm Dead" - I agree...not my favorite (but my kids like it)
      "It's Over" - Great ending to the record and sounds great live

      The Only One is not a problem - I agree!

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    11. I'm okay with The Only One. It does sound better on vinyl. Then again, the whole album does. Then again, I'm waiting for anything that matches up to 3IB - Wish period. Then again, I still like a few scattered things after that period. Then again, I also like Club America. Then again, I kind of only like in this obtuse way because the guitar line really does seem like something that was eventually going to come from The Cure. And I'm still trying to find a video of when Porl played it with them. Always wanted to see him play that lead.

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    12. All Kinds of Stuff is fucking brilliant!!! So is Its Over & The Scream cant understand why people dont like them?

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  6. I remember in interviews about the record label being against a double album, Robert commented that they said; "We know what you're trying to do," with respect to releasing four singles/b-sides. Though he may have been joking, I wonder if the four b-sides were intended for the full double album, and, if so, where do they fall on the light/dark speculation?

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  7. I think the 3 most underrated songs on 4:13 are Switch, Real Snow White, and This. Here and Now. With You.

    And I know everyone else seems to hate it, but I really like Sirensong. And It's Over really grew on me. Didn't care for it at first, but rarely skip it now. I also like the weirdness of The Scream, though I skip it a lot. Have to be in the mood.

    My 3 favorites from those sessions remain UTS, All Kinds of Stuff, and NY Trip.

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    1. I love Sirensong, a lot. When I heard it, I thought that "this is the type of song I've been waiting to hear by the Cure". I think a lot of it has to do with Porl's lapsteel guitar. I've said it before, but all and all, I think 4:13 is a very strong album. The production gets in the way for me, though.

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    2. I'm a fan of Sirensong as well! Not so much Switch or The Scream though. Always loved It's Over, brilliant song.
      Hadn't thought about the b-sides and how they fit into the light/dark thing, the dream ones seem more dark than light from memory though.

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    3. A lot really depends on what Robert would consider "dark". Is Underneath the Stars dark? It's down-tempo, but certainly more "dreamy" than dark. Whereas "The Reasons Why" is dark lyrically, but lighter musically. But, I don't want to read into it, too much. Either way, I'm looking forward to what comes.

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    4. The only one is the worst song on 4:13 for me. I think Freakshow is a good song struggling under dreadful wah-wah guitar and bad mixing. Sirensong, It's Over and The Scream are great! I love THANWY too. That song loud on headphones is fantastic!!

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    5. I preferred 'It's Over' when it was called 'Baby Rag Dog Book'. The band played it with more punch back then.

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    6. the real snow white is one of my favourites!

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  8. Nice idea to gather in one place all the available info about the new album Craig. :)

    I was thinking about the songs that could be in the album too.

    My guessing includes all the ones you posted except the instrumentals, which I couldn´t remember.

    At some point I´d like to listen both version of the songs recorded in 2004 and re-recorded in 2008.

    So this new release is the one they recorded back in the same "Dream-Scream" sessions but...

    What will happen with the Porl parts?

    Roger & Reeves have any participation in this album?

    The Robert/Simon/Jason parts remains unchanged since 2008?

    If the tentative title or a slight variation is confirmed that means Robert wants to link it undoubtedly with the 4:13 Dream. And with this release, the circle is closed.

    Maybe after these events, the band have the wish to record new stuff, inspiration of this great current line-up.

    :)

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  9. The B sides on 4.13 should have been on the album replacing any song except UTS and The Hungry Ghost..

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  10. the only one sits next to round & round & round as the worst 2 cure songs. it's over was the highlight of 4.13 for me.

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  11. For an unknow reason, I listened 4:13 Dream songs on saturday and sunday, just before the press release.

    4:13 b-sides are good songs, I like them all. Without You is great to my ears.

    But in the top of that, I hope for a perfect mix this time. No excesive effects over voice, music and these awful compressed sound. That took off a lots of points to 4:13.

    We have plenty of examples of how mixing should be.

    In fact, I think Robert complained about that and he said he wanted to mix it properly again, am i remembering correctly? If so and he already did that too, why not release the new mix as well?

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    1. Then maybe it could be properly released as a double album.

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  12. My four 4:13 dream songs that should be on 4:14 scream: Underneath the Stars, Sirensong, This Here and Now with You and The Scream

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    1. The first three don't make sense.

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    2. Without having the 2nd album and knowing what's on it, it's king of like comparing apples to orangutans. But, hell, we also can't deny it...so heck, maybe fmjews is right!

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  13. well, since 4:13 was appallingly bad - anything will be an improvement...

    then again, perhaps time & deprivation (of new Cure) will make it sound better now... hmm

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    1. I say give 4:13 Dream another listen. If you don't like it, then listen to the Live In Roma version of the record. If you don't like either, then yeah, you don't like it...but it doesn't make it appallingly bad. In my book, "Appallingly Bad" is reserved for bands like Milli Vanilli, John Stamos, Katy Perry, but definitely not The Cure on their worst day!

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  14. I just don't getting excited about 4:14 at all. The Cure is dead

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    1. No, all members of The Cure are actually alive as is the band. You might check your own pulse.

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    3. I can confirm that as well...actually, one of them was even a man, but is now a woman, but still has a pulse...which is cool!

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  15. Do not worry, Juan, it appears that 4:14 is a hoax.

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  16. I thought 4:13 was mainly poor, The Perfect Boy is not only a bad Cure song, but one of the worst songs I've ever heard, and I agree about The Only One being shit as well. So I'm not too excited about 4:14, but if it's got a better mix than the last album, with the vocal less forced and prominent, then who knows, it might be ok.

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    1. I thought that 'The Perfect Boy' was quite pretty.

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    2. I agree about the vocals! Too forced and too much

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  17. By the way, I really hope for much, much less "screaming" this time around.

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  18. hey, i LOVE 'The Only One! don't be hatin, hater. ;)

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    1. I'm with you...it's a shameless dumb ass pop song and the drums are quite good as well.

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  19. Way too much negativity going on here about a record that hasn't even been released. If I read "the MIX on" these blog responses any more, I am going to puke in my mouth.

    If someone isn't complaining about the lie of MIXed Up 2 not being released, they always can complain about the original mix of Entreat and how incredibly worse the MIX of Entreat Plus is, or how bad the MIX for 4:13 Dream was or that the self title The Cure record didn't get a proper MIX. UHHHGGG!!!

    How about switch it up and talk about what you liked? I like The Cure...period! They don't have any reason to put out more music unless it's something they are proud of. Robert and Co don't tour the world for dollars and they certainly aren't showing up at the RAH because they have to.

    So...on the positive side, how about we talk about The Cure's Charity Work?

    Has anyone noticed that almost every live album that they have released has dedicated the profits to charity? Dating back to Show, Paris and Bestival? What about the shows that they perform, such as the Teenage Cancer trust? How fuckin awesome is that they are at a place in their career where they can actually contribute to something (beyond their f'n amazingly timeless music) and make a positive impact on society...now that's something to get in MIX about! (yeah, not that clever, but trying to spread some positivity around these parts).

    Or, how about this...Craig is f'n awesome for providing this forum. He's done it for years and deserves some kudos! Does anyone think that they played Burn because Craig was in the audience? I do...and that's fucking brilliant! Thanks Craig...you fuckin rock!

    Go to curefans.com if you want to post some negativity...OK?

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    1. I agree with Mike. These are some great guys that make some fantastic music. Enjoy it, or look for other artists you prefer. It isn't complicated. I can think of several bands I liked in the 80's and really can't listen to today. For me, that isn't the case with The Cure. I continue to enjoy the music, and the personalities. Oh, and Perfect Boy is a great song.

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    2. I agree with Mike. These are some great guys that make some fantastic music. Enjoy it, or look for other artists you prefer. It isn't complicated. I can think of several bands I liked in the 80's and really can't listen to today. For me, that isn't the case with The Cure. I continue to enjoy the music, and the personalities. Oh, and Perfect Boy is a great song.

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    3. Craig...I gotta know. Do you think they played Burn because:
      1) You have ran this forum for years
      2) You made it clear you were at the show
      3) You made a list of songs you wish they would play

      I remember thinking, Oh Shit.. Craig got his wish....made an impact...awesome!

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    4. Mike, No, Burn had nothing to do with me being there. Not to my knowledge. And I never made any list of songs I wanted to hear.

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    5. ...except 'A Chain of Flowers,' which they still haven't played.

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    6. Soon to be rectified, I hope. *Crosses fingers*

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  20. Craig,

    Didn't Robert say he written a song during last Summer's shows? Did he mention they were writing new material? I can't remember, cause i really didn't listen to any of those interviews.

    I'm always excited for "new" material! If we can just get 1 or 2 "Underneath the Stars" it'll be so worth it! :) And a few golden B-sides too :) : ) )

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    1. That's why I keep saying, "If you can't release an album at lease release a single. Or an EP. But don't go five years and release zero new material."

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    2. Mike, yes he did. I think he said he had written a few songs, but wasn't happy with some.

      He's been stressing that he will not make a new album until he feels the songs are good enough.

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    3. Well, then I guess that means that we can hope to hear them sometime after Robert is buried and his nephews and nieces sort out his will. ;)

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  21. And getting back to the topic of What We Might Expect From 4:14 whatever it's called...I'm calling it now:

    A special vinyl variant will be released on Record Store Day, which is April 19th.

    The Cure have been involved with Record Store day for years and years, so it would make sense that they use this day as a medium to release the record (or a special version for fans),

    I'm calling it! Consider it FACT!

    I'm betting my left testicle on it!

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    1. No one ever bets the right.... ever...

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  22. And any takers, I forgot to mention that it is an eye for eye...or, rather, a testicle for a testicle. Women are allowed to barter with whatever they prefer, but compensation is required! Understood?

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  23. On the Charity Front, here is what I quickly came up with:

    Bestival 2011 - All profits from the sale of the CD will go to the Isle Of Wight Youth Trust

    Paris - The Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement is gratefully receiving 50% of the recording royalties payable
    to the Cure and Fiction Records in support of international relief work.

    The Cure Cover John Lennon's Love - I don't remember which charity, but the profits went someplace...I think the Red Cross

    A few shows for Teenage Cancer Trust

    Anyone else remember what other charities The Cure gave to?

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    1. Entreat: there was a sticker on it:
      "artists royalties donated to mancap uk"

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    2. the Lennon track was for Amnesty International, I think. And was Five Swing Live for the Red Cross? Pretty sure it was for charity.

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  24. Thanks Craig foe keeping us up to date. Thanks Cure for putting out new product, finally...I almost gave up. Thanks Mike Cameron for turning the tone of this thread around! I loved the songs on 4:13 and cant wait to hear the other half. And new dvd/blu rays of my favorite band are always welcome!
    This. Here. And. Now. With. You! ;)

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  25. I wonder on what label they will publish the record.

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  26. If they go back to Elektra in the US and Fiction in the UK they will be on "ElektraFiction." Sorry, little Echo & the Bunnymen joke.

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  27. No label but Smith Music Ltd, I think, and Universal wpuld distribute only. Would love a pack with 4:13 and 4:14 and Wish/Lost Wishes Deluxe and Mixed Up/Mixed Up 2 Deluxe and Orange and Show and Paris 2008 and Reflexions and Lat Am !!

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  28. I really like 4:13 Dream, their best album since Wish, I find Bloodflowers, with the exception of Out Of This World to be turgid and tuneless. I do not hate The Only One and think it is really good live...I am really looking forward to this new 'old album.' I only hope Robert rethinks the tentative 4:14 Scream title...why associate it so closely with an album that sold poorly?

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    1. I think that the Oakenfeld remix Out of This World (Joint the Dots) is a great track...give that one a try and see if you think differently.

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  29. While were at it. Call me naive but I still wish for Spilt Milk. Best song ever i my world.

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    1. Really weird that we didn't get that on Join the Dots. Guess we have to wait until Bloodflowers Deluxe comes out, so maybe in 2021?

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    2. I thought it was weird, too. The version called "Ching, Chang, Chong" with different lyrics is also beautiful. I have a hard time deciding which I like better. I'm confused as to why that song wasn't on Bloodflowers, as it would have sat nicely among those other songs. A true gem of a Cure song.

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    3. If I had to pick one of the two, I'd got with Ching Chang Chong....again, dumb pop song lyrics, but I like it.

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  30. What about the bbc dvd? What happened to that?

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    1. You mean The Cure at the BBC box set? Good question. Seems to have disappeared along with Wish Deluxe and Mixed Up Deluxe/Mixed Up 2.

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    2. Yeah, maybe it'll see the light of the night this year. I really liked the Banshees' bbc set.

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  31. wow a lot of hate for 4:13 and folks wanting smith et al to rehash older stuff (music factory?). agree with some comments about some of the weaker tracks on 4;13 (freakshow, scream) but with innovation and experimentation you will get a few less favorable results but also a chance of some real diamonds. Disintegration is held up as probably the greatest cure album but it could so easily have been head on the door 2, which would of been fine but no disintegration?
    as with most albums i find that opinions change over time ie i used to skip "it's over" but hearing it live changed my opinion and on my 1st few plays of disintegration I would skip fascination street.
    summary: stop whining and skip the tracks u dont like - very few artists have albums with 100% of songs that are universally loved.

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    2. "The scream", a weak track?!! My goodness, it´s one of the best Cure song ever. A pure psychedelic madness.

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  32. Craig, during summercure tour, Robert was talking about a new happy-funny-song they created together with Reeves, so I guess that one would make the album too ?
    (correct me if i'm wrong)

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    1. Why should it? This one is a newly written Song by Robert and Reeves and has nothing to do with 4:14 Scream that was written in 2008.

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    2. I wouldn't think so. This should be just the material they recorded back in 07/08. Newly mixed probably, and possibly some things re-recorded or bits add, but essentially the tracks from those 4:13 sessions.

      Anything newly written/recorded would be saved for a new album, I would think.

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  33. Well because this is a new record, and things and moods might change in a 6 years timeframe, with new blood in the band, and enriching experiences.. So I expect this new album to be a new album,based on past recorded material, rearranged maybe, but also new one. Would be surprised if we had a full record without any Roger notes, or Reeves riffs.
    It's not a release of something frozen in a drawer for the last 6 years

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    1. Neither Roger nor Reeves have anything to do with 4:14 Scream.

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    2. Yeah. This is a record they need to got out to be able to move on with the new lineup. Since 4songs intended for the album was used on the 4:13 dream and 4 for singles b-sides this is more like New Oders "left over" album from last year. Anyway im excited. RS has left the best songs unpublished before...

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  34. The Only One is a great song!
    "It's so sweet in there"

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  35. @ mike cameron ~
    yes, you're quite right.
    crummy Cure is far better than most of the crap out there.

    there have been many REALLY FANTASTIC releases recently by artists of similar ilk; D-mode, Gary Numan, OMD, Johnny Marr, Bowie...
    so i haven't lost hope for RSX

    for me, the Cure will always be the cherry on top no matter what ~ so, of course i'll continue to be the one waiting for the record store to open on release day ... just as i have for every album since Boys Don't Cry

    ("waiting for the record store to open" speaking metaphorically)

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  36. I would be disappointed if the b-sides to the 4;13 dream singles were included on the "new" album, as I have heard them all before, and I'm really longing for some "new" material. It's a same though, because Down Under is one of my favorite cure songs, and NY Trip and All kinds of stuff were all songs which all belonged on 4:13 dream, rather than some of the embarrassing stuff such as the Real Snow White, Reasons Why and This.Here and Now. With You. The only one is pleasant, and it's alright. Any complaints against it are equally leveled against Mint Car, in the sense that it's Cure by numbers pop.

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    1. ??? Why should any of the B-Sides be on the album? They are released already. 4:14 Scream is about the stuff that's been left over.

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    2. Thanks, that's pretty much what I've already said. Take your hostility elsewhere.

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    3. Mint car, I think, is a better song. It at least has a challenging solo guitar part that really stands out.

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  37. This is an awesom post but I never believe Robert about upcoming releases until I'm holding it in my hand. He's notorious for announcing a new album that doesn't come out for 3-5 years!

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  38. i m very upset cos robert is still thinking that 4 :13 dream sessions ( 4 :14 scream) is better than Wish deluxe edition i already heard 14 songs from Wish era and are marvelous but i don t care 4:14 scream cos i don t want to ear robert screaming like crazy again with bad songs beside he want to come out the dvd from paris 2008 who cares? what happen with reflexions show? nobody realized that robert spent 5 years cos he can t composed 10 new songs so he decided after 5 years to come out the dark album of 4;13 era..he s out of mind i can t believe it...it s just my opinion i m sorry

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  39. In 2008 on Idealcopy this was the first tracklist of 4.13 dream:
    Underneath the Stars
    The Only One
    A Boy I Never Knew
    Freakshow
    Lusting Here in Your Mind
    The Hungry Ghost
    The Perfect Boy
    Christmas Without You
    Please Come Home
    Spot Marks the X
    16
    Sleep When I'm Dead
    Baby Rag Dog Book

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    2. Thank you for finding that! I wonder if 16 & Spot Marks The X were working titles for songs we already have? I can't remember.

      I know Please Project became The Only One and Don't Say Anything became Freakshow, but can't remember any others.

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    3. It's a really strange tracklist: we have the 4 singles, 3 songs played at the 4tour (uts, abikn and it's over). Of the 6 remaining songs just the hungry ghost is on 4:13 dream...

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  40. as mentioned elsewhere it would nice if 4:14 comes out in various forms ie single album, double as it was intended etc. most importantly get the mix & production right on this.

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  41. production was really bad indeed

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  42. I think a lot are mistaken about which might be the 4 to-be-swapped songs !!

    Robert said several times that the first album was more "UP-BEAT" and the second more "Slow and Emotional".

    So I don't think the emphasis is that much on "Dark" but more on "Slow and emotional".

    So with that in mind, my gues at the 4 songs would be :)

    - Underneath The Stars (most obvious imho)
    - Siren
    - The Perfect Boy (very tentatively)
    - The Scream (slow BPM stuff like he described already in 2002 I think in the Trilogy bonus interview)

    Other songs, on the contrary that might be darkish but actually up-beat:

    - Switch !!
    - It's Over

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  43. I'd think of a slow emotional album of one you can listen to before going to sleep :)

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  44. Like "This mornig", "Why Can't I Be Me", "Your God Is Fear", "Abink", "Going Nowhere" : )

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  46. I predict they will release it on April 13th. It only makes sense, although it doesnt fall on the traditional Moday release date in the UK, April 13th is a sunday, maybe put it up on ITunes April 13th and release it in the shops Monday and Tuesday in the US

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  47. I say Record Store Day...and I say make Robert the ambassador for Record Store Day 2014

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  48. everyone on this forum probably owns disintegration in most formats but if you need a digital version - its only £1-99 on amazon UK:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003Z9XXIY/?tag=ho01f-21

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  49. Im still waiting for Wish Deluxe with hopefully Lost Wishes and a good quality sound recording of Away (which is so much better then Cut) & The Big Hand from Playout

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    1. Tom: I too wish for Away - fantastic version.

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  50. The Cure changed A LOT since 1993 when Porl and Boris decided to leave the band.

    After great albums like THOTD, DISINTEGRATION, WISH, we had 4:13, WMS and the boring BLOODFLOWERS...

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  52. No a single word from Robert about this supposed communiqué ??....no details have emerged until now...i'm suspicious now ......???

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