"For those completists interested, there's a hard to find Glove track
available again. Tormented, the instrumental demo version, is available
to download at Steve Severin's website. I had inquired there a few months
ago, and it wasnt available. I got an email from the site, (Severin
himself maybe) two days ago telling me it now was. It's on the
Unisexdreamsalon album and you can download the whole album or the track separately. It's the backing track of 'And all around us the mermaids
sang', from The Glove remaster. It's cool to hear it without vocals.
And listening to both makes me wonder, even though it doesn't matter,
when those Glove bonus disc vocals were actually recorded."
(Thanks Tom)
(Thanks Tom)
those vocals were recorded in the 00s along with most "guide vocals" that are on the other remasters from The Top 'till Disintegration. this pisses me off immeasurably. no problem if he states that he recorded new vocals for some songs, just don't pretend they're old ones. i know Robert's voice too well to be fooled so easily.
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ReplyDeleteThe general sentiment around the time of "The Glove" remaster's release must be right. Robert wasn't doing vocals like these until "Wild Mood Swings", so it's at least from the mid-'90s and it pisses me off that he lied about it, though I think he's very cool politically and otherwise.
ReplyDeleteYes anyone could hear they are later vocals..but why would he fib? Weird.
ReplyDeleteRubbish. Severin himself said that the vocals were done at the time as Robert was experimenting with his voice just before he made Blue Sunshine/The Top.
ReplyDelete"Severin said so, it must be true then". Haha, now THAT was a convincing point ;-)
DeleteAgree with the first postings... the first thing I thought when first hearing the Glove remasters was what the hell is wrong with Robert.. does he really believe there would be anyone out there who is familiar with The Cure would believe those vocals were done back in the 80s? Come on!
yeah i'm shocked that a lot of fans didn't recognize them as new vocals. adding shitloads of effects and changing some lyric and voila', some people are really easy to fool. i can understand if someone is not that much into the band, but the difference between 80s Robert and 00s Robert is so obvious.
DeleteErm, I believe Severin and Smith more than some anonymous fan in North Carolina. Why would they lie?!!
ReplyDeleteAnyway, the Glove 2 disc remaster is amazing and was worth the wait.
I don't get the "anonymous fan in North Carolina", what do you mean? Noone's talking about someones' statement vs. Severins' statement and which to be more trustful. We're just talking about that it is obvious the vocals were recorded later than 2000, not in the 80s, whatever Robert or Severin might say (for whichever reason I don't understand).
DeleteAnyway, the disc was still quite nice and betetr than nothing :-)
yeah eaverybody knows that Robert never lies. :p
Deletei trust my listening to Robert's voice for 20+ years more than whatever thing he says in interviews. i never met or spoke to a cure-obsessee who didn't notice that the vocals were new.
some people would believe anything that comes out from their idol's mouth.
Robert said this in the Glove remaster's booklet:
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I'm absolutely certain the vocals were new...but ah...I love the Glove remaster so much I couldn't care less...
i also really like the remaster, i just don't understand why not stating that those are new vocals. ever since KAA has been dropped from the 3IB remaster thing have begun to be slightly odd with the Cure releases.
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In 1988 I bought a Cure mini poster book, the back of each page had a small paragraph about the band. One page stated Robert once worked with Marc Almond, but I never knew what it was. In 2003 Marc played the Inland Invasion 3, and mentioned he wrote "torment" with Robert, then performed it. Brian from The Curse gave me a copy of "Torment" last summer, and he was unaware of Roberts involvement with it. This recent post here on COF brings it back around, and now I see the evolution of "And All Around Us The Mermaids Sang" aka "Tormented" aka "Torment"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkCjwM8WDGw
I also read someplace, Marc said he did the song with Steve and Robert
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ReplyDeleteyou guys are silly. considering "the top" the vocals fit that era just fine... add a little modern day cleanup magic... etc...
ReplyDeletei believe Robert before i'd believe any of you supposed know it alls.
yep the vocals on the Top bonus disc are all original except for Dressing Up.
Deleteother re-done vocals for the other remasters:
"Close to Me" (Fitz/F2 Studios Demo 2/85)(he added a new vocal to the demo that already had a guide vocal line. this original demo was put up on the Greatest Hits website before the remaster
"A Thousand Hours" (Studio rough mix)
"Icing Sugar" (Studio rough mix)
"One More Time" (Studio rough mix)
"Plainsong" – Studio rough (Guide vocal)
"Last Dance" – Studio rough (Guide vocal)
"Lullaby" – Studio rough (Guide vocal)
"Out of Mind" – Studio rough (Guide vocal)
and possibily Delirious Night as well, though that one is hard to tell really.
Is anyone else having trouble trying to buy anything from there? As soon as I change my country from US to UK it just stops working :\ I've tried to do this over a few days and it's always been the same!
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