Update: The scans are up now. Enjoy! And thank you so much, Keith!
Some key points from the Hot Press interview (if you'd like to buy a copy, it should be up for sale soon):
1. Talks again about wanting to work with Severin again and that The Glove would be top of his list of future collaborations!
2. He's looking forward to Bestival because they haven't played a proper Cure show in years. "its the longest we've ever gone" without a show. He hasn't decided what they're going to do or how they're going to do it.
3. He says it will kickstart them back into work again and into the second part of the album!!
4. He's not sure if the band wants to complete the follow up to 4:13 Dream. They're kinda avoiding discussing it!!
5. As the years go by the tours get shorter...so that's why they don't do dates in every country anymore. To keep the shows fresh he feels you have to reduce the amount of shows. Bands who flog themselves to death end up as imitations of themselves.
6. Two more collaborations done and will come out this year but he can't talk about either of them. (I'm guessing one of these is the track he did with James McCartney.)
7. However between now and this time next year The Cure will take precedence over anything else "Until I get the second half of this album out, I won't do another collaboration"
(Thanks Keith)
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thanks keith, can't wait to see the scan!
ReplyDelete:O The return of The Glove?! Now THAT is not something I think many of us were expecting.
ReplyDeleteHe keeps saying 'the second half of this album', does that mean there's a totally new album half done or is he referring to 4:13 part 2? It kinda seems like the latter but point 4 suggests he's talking about 4:13 part 2 separately...
I'm pretty sure he means the 2nd half of 4:13 Dream, which he always said would be released in two parts, once Universal gave him grief about releasing it as a double album.
ReplyDeleteThis half is supposed to be "dark" and have more keyboards on it, but all of that was said a long time ago, and things might have changed since then.
i would LOVE a new glove album and i would travel to see a glove tour for certain!
ReplyDeletei think we were all looking forward to "the dark album", but at this point i'm just happy there's an album on the horizon at all. i think bestival will reveal much!
good read, happy to read anything to be honest :)
ReplyDeleteKeith, thanks for the scans!
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ReplyDeleteAfter having read the whole article, I concluded there are absolutely no plans whatsoever to release anything Cure-ish. Just that Robert won't do any more collaborations before a Cure release does not indicate that there will be one! Or does it?
ReplyDeleteCureheads rejoice indeed!
ReplyDeleteI just wanna know who is in the band
ReplyDeleteI thought the second half of 4:13 was done at the same time the first half was done. The label only wanted to release a single album, so songs were picked to comprise one album. What "work" would have to be done to finish an album made up of songs that were already recorded a few years ago. Didn't we go through this whole thing once before?
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing. I'm very excited that he's still going to do the sequel to "4:13 Dream" and hope to God he improves his lyrics and mixes it better. I hope Porl's still involved, too, although there's no reason to doubt it.
ReplyDeleteStrange updates indeed. I agree about 4:13 Dream in that those songs should have been done. I would worry about Robert revising them. The Cure are best when they record quickly and spontaneously. Robert weakens almost everything when he messes with it over time. Look at Wish as a prime example and then more or less every album after...they take too long and get watered down either in production or making songs poppier. Even the early versions of the dreadful Mint Car were much better than the released one.
ReplyDeleteI think that a Glove album would have more potential at this point in time than a Cure album. Severin said several years ago that Smith wouldn't do one because he doesn't want a challenge and I think something more experimental would be much more impressive. Robert is way too old to keep attempting these sub-par pop songs that mostly rip off the formula of an earlier single.
No word about the South American tour or concert(s), Porl, Roger, the old stuff re releases,Sydney's Dvd, Mixed Up 2, relationships with Universal and Geffen. The dark album ? A new Glove one? Blablabla. Hot Press ?!!! Come on...
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ReplyDeleteIn fairness, hotpress is a very generic Irish (mainly rock) magazine. The article was actually about John Martyn and Roberts thoughts on him...the extra Cure stuff was just kinda off "so what else is new with you Robert?" If the article was about The Cure I would expect your level of questioning. Most people reading it probably wouldn't even know The Cure had released anything since Wish so I was actually impressed with how up to date the interviewer was !!
Keith,
ReplyDeleteI'm not angry against Hot Press and I'm a huge fan who's so in love with The Cure that I released 2 books about the band but I don't agree with the way Robert's non communication. So many announcements that led to nothing, so important things we'd love to hear about... He does what it wants but it's a bit unfair. He can't ignore the frustration it creates. It's not like postponing a tour or asking for intimate information but the gap has increased even if I've always known Robert wants to maintain a distance with fans. He's not Lady Gaga (thank God!) and won't talk to us through Twiter (he propably doesn't know how i works!) but he could do a little bit more. I feel stupid taping this as I've always been defending the idea of artists freedom but my heart is sometimes weaker than my mind.
I think that It depends on what happens on the 10th of september.
ReplyDeletePerhaps Robert wants to keep in silence very good things about line-up till the concert and he speaks before and after the show.
I have to say that if the line-up is the same (porl,robert,simon and jason)
and no keyboards probably I'll forget about the cure for a long time.
Robert got me excited about the future of the cure when they did "Reflections" but now in the interview he doesn`t even consider that a cure show.
Robert's bad decissions come from the wish era.He changed the way the cure worked he said in the past the band took part in the final decissions but it changed cos he considered he was wrong that's why Wish could have been much better and so on.
again...i have a bad feeling Porl is not with the group. i really hope i'm wrong.
ReplyDeleteSorry but I don't think Porl is in the band. I think he just came back for a bit to make some money. He left after they were done touring in 09. If he was still in the band they would have included him in some form at the shows in Sydney. Not sure who is in the band though. Wouldn't be surprised if they played Bestival as a three piece.
ReplyDeleteWhat makes you think Perry isn't back?
ReplyDeleteHe loved being in the Cure.
my theory is thus - prior to reflections, roger's twitter account went quieter than usual (busy rehearsing and what not) - and he's a chatty man as we all know.
ReplyDeleteam I correct in seeing this pattern repeating again prior to bestival?
the slightly more puzzling part is that Lol has also gone dead on both twitter and facebook, as he did just before reflections...
mmmm....
yeah I don't get #3 and 4 about putting out the "second half of 4:13 Dream". At this point it's not the second half, it's just the next album. And it will be like 7 years before we hear it. I don't care how much music they put out but what's with all the teasing? that sucks.
ReplyDeleteProbably worth noting that NME mention that they've had a recent telephone interview with RS. This may appear in next weeks edition prior to Bestival...
ReplyDeleteany cure news is always good news but over the years i think we can be forgiven for being a little sceptical when it comes to announcements about new projects: show/in orange dvd, 30th anniversary dvd, mixed up 2, dark album etc etc.
ReplyDeleteand again any cure show, with any cure line up will always be a fantastic show, personally would be very sad to see porl not involved, in my opinion his guitar playing more than made up for there being no keyboards on the last tour.
John, where do they say that? Can't find it?
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ReplyDeleteporl came back just "to make some money"? i seriously doubt that.
ReplyDeleteand why wouldn't perry be back? because he was unceremoniously dumped.
but...i do hope he and robert make up in some capacity. the way he has with other former band members. maybe they already have.
all i know is that bestival cannot come soon enough.
Robert has been deceiving fans for years with his unkept promises about various releases. He has become one big fat bore.
ReplyDeletePorl didn't come back for money. I don't know them personnaly but first I never felt any member was dong the job for money and secondly you might have won a huge amount selling something like 33 million albums and maybe 15 million concert tickets... few dozen million euros for sure. Porl is incredibly talented, the nicest musician I've ever met and so into arts that he might have gone again for new projects. Please don't say bad things about him. Regarding announcements, II feel like time is not as important for Robert than for us. We're always acting like when we were those lucky teenagers who got new Cure stuff and news and gigs every month... But time goes by. In a way it's a good thing that we're so impatient. It shows how special this fucking lazy band is. Hate loving them so much and love hating them !
ReplyDeleteI didn't mean anything negative by saying Porl came back to play for money, if you took it that way that is your problem. He has a right to earn a living. I don't think he has ever really been into The Cure's music. I am sure he enjoyed the recent years, because he really got to play the way he enjoys to play. From 84 to 92 he was kept on a pretty short leash. Who knows, maybe he is still around. I doubt it though.
ReplyDelete"I don't think he has ever really been into The Cure's music."
ReplyDeleteexamples? because honestly he looks like he's having the time of his life when he plays out. and he's been around, in and out of the band, since the beginning.
What I hope for is the 87 lineup... Robert, Simon, Porl, Lol, Boris, and Roger. Lol doing supplemental percussion at times. There is nothing that lineup could not do. Hell, get Perry back on guitar for some wish era songs- 3 guitars and 2 keyboards... go all out!
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