Saturday, June 6, 2009
Rumor: Cure gone from Geffen/Interscope?
There's a rumor going around that The Cure have parted ways with Geffen/Interscope records. This has come mainly from various employees of Universal Music, in different parts of the world. But there has been no official confirmation of this from the band, and no official word from the labels. I first got word of this on May 15th, and have tried to get some confirmation since then, but have had no luck. Just more rumors and speculation. So I have no idea if this is true, where they would go if it is, what this means for the Dark Album, if the band asked for a release, or if Geffen let them go. Either way, good luck to The Cure, as they continue to deal with more record company nonsense.
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Here, here!
ReplyDeleteI'm hoping they decide to "do a NIN"
ReplyDelete:D
Stig: Me too!
ReplyDeleteI hope the guys make a punk move with this one. Trent needs help fighting the industry.
ReplyDeleteone of the best cure news EVER.
ReplyDeleterumor, i meant. news, hoepfully soon!
ReplyDeletewhat the heck? That is really strange. Maybe it was because of the lyrics licensing thing for the shirts? I'm sure Robert has a plan or some reasoning for this, if it is in fact true. I don't think the Cure would just stop here, not after all their shows recently, and coachella, and the tv appearances and new album, and also the "dark album" that Robert has talked about. Hmm....
ReplyDeleteFigurehead: Oh I don't think this would signal an end at all! Just the opposite. A fresh new start.
ReplyDeleteAnd I doubt it has anything to do with the t-shirt lyrics, as Music Week says RS helped to design them.
Ahh, I see, I didn't realize Robert helped out with them.
ReplyDeleteAnyways, I think it would be better if they were off of a major label like Geffen/Interscope, because with 4:13 I never saw any ads ANYWHERE for it, and I don't think they were very beneficial to the Cure.
I bet they could do even better on their own or on a smaller label.
Their site is still up with the Geffen/Inter thing on the bottom, so hmm.
It´s hard to think something concrete meanwhile this is true or remains as a rumor.
ReplyDeleteBut after seeing the label doesn´t give the due importance to the band, doesn´t support sufficiently the last album and all the rest we already know, i think it´s not a bad idea for the band to go their career as a single entity.
That way, they´ll have absolute control over the record and everything else.
So, let´s wait and see.
But as always, hoping the very best for The CURE and they take the best decision for the benefit of themselves.
:)
I hope some good comes out of this.
ReplyDeleteIt's high time to wipe the slate clean!
this would be great, if it were true
ReplyDeleteinterscope is a division of the mighty u
ReplyDeleteI agree with the 'going NIN' sentiment. Robert makes the point about people in the world who don't follow the band on the internet and have to rely on "conventional" outlets to hear and purchase the band's albums. However, I wonder how much +/- the bottom line changes when you take away label support? The Cure have a great audience that they can target directly through thecure.com and websites like this. Yes, they lose the ability to target areas of the world where the internet isn't the most effective means of marketing their product. But that being said... Why should they suffer things like Jordan Schur deciding the track listing and the length of their albums? What has Sureton/Geffen/Universal/League of Doom/Satan/Disney done for the Cure?
ReplyDeleteRemember after Bloodflowers how we were supposed to get the ten best concerts from the tour available from the website? Then that couldn't happen because Universal wouldn't allow it.
Then we saw the lyrics of "A Boy I Never Knew", and all had to wonder what kind of album 'The Cure' would have been if people who have nothing to do with the music had kept their dirty little fingers out of it.
Then we had 4:13 Dream as a double album... that couldn't happen... BECAUSE UNIVERSAL WOULDN'T ALLOW IT!
And where is the 20th Anniversary of Disintegration Deluxe CD?
As not only a CURE fan, but as a fan of epically awesome music - I'm enraged that there isn't something promoting and celebrating what is an objectively IMPORTANT ALBUM... certainly one of the most important albums in alternative rock.
Damnit, I'm sick of a bunch of pricks with B.A.s in merchandising and marketing running record companies and getting some of my money when all I want is a new CURE release.
So if the person who's fixing Robert's caps lock key is reading this... JUST SELL IT DIRECT!
(I know it's not that easy... but surely it doesn't have to be THIS HARD!)
interesting turn of events
ReplyDeleteJ, you speak for me, also.
ReplyDeleteHear, Hear!
Even being just a rumor, I still thank you for sharing, Craig.
ReplyDelete(Happy Birthday, V!)
they didnt really leavve universal because interscope is apart of universal, probably be a different bunch of asshole in the office might be in the same building though
ReplyDeleteSIGN TO ANTI- !!!!
ReplyDeleteRyan: Yes, Universal is the parent company of Interscope/Geffen/Suretone. But we have no idea if they have left ANY of the companies yet.
ReplyDeleteSeems to me like it will be true, and I say good ridance. Robert and the band have been treated like crap by them. We all know they'll be better off.
ReplyDeleteCheers to The Cure!! Now we get The Cure 100%. They can write their own history, play wherever they want, and release whatever they want. Robert should take the initiative if only because like The Dead and PHish, there will be everlasting support from all of the nutty Cure peeps like me and you. I don't see Radiohead or NIN having any trouble. Maybe that's why Robert was so darn happy at Vegas and Coachella. Change for the good and we get another 10 years from the Coolest band around. DARK ALBUM DARK ALBUM DARK ALBUM. And it should be titled "The Dark Album By The Cure". :)
ReplyDeleteThanks, Kate! :)
ReplyDeleteAnd my best wishes for V.
ReplyDeleteI hope you´re having an excellent b-day in companion of your beloved ones.
Enjoy it.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU...
:)
v's day? happy birthday, v!
ReplyDeletebest of wishes to the special birthday girl! ;)
ReplyDeleteI'm going to get some super glue and glue my fingers in the crossed position. I know this sounds painful, but this is the best f'ing news I've heard in forever. I'll take this over just about anything right now. Get the kinks worked out now and worry about touring, albums etc. in the future.
ReplyDeleteDo it Robert, DO IT!!
Oh and something else... Maybe the whole t-shirt thing has something to do with Robert finishing off some financial obligations to TMU (The Maggot Universal)??
ReplyDeleteIt's quite possible that I have no idea what I'm talking about, but it seems like a possibility to me.
Anyone??
And for anyone that cares, my gracious savior record dealer here in Dallas sold me the new Placebo tonight and I just absolutely love it forever and ever... : )
J., when Bloodflowers was released, the band was still on Elektra/Fiction, so Universal had nothing to do with any decisions not to release concerts. By the way, I never heard anything about releasing the ten best shows from the Dream Tour, just two live compilations, one from the Euro leg, and one from the North American leg.
ReplyDelete'A Boy I Never Knew': The decision not to release it was Robert's, and Robert's alone, as he wasn't ready for anyone to hear it. Others loved it and wanted it released, including producer Ross Robinson. Robert's said that himself on at least one occasion.
4:13 Dream: Not a double album not because Universal wouldn't allow it, but because Robert was unwilling to let the label shaft the band on royalties.
Good points by shawn_w. I think people are jumping to conclusions a little. Even if it weren't just a rumor, we don't know what it means.
ReplyDeleteI don't doubt that the big U is a pain to work with, but I don't subscribe to the notion that all the complaints fans have can be blamed on them. At the end of the day, Robert Smith is responsible for everything The Cure does. He could have "gone NIN" after the Greatest Hits album, but he decided to sign with Universal and release The Cure. RS has been making his own judgments about the relative benefits of being on a big label, which necessitates some compromise.
There's some scapegoating going on here. Remember RS wrote Just Say Yes.
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ReplyDeletei agree as well, even though it would be great, i highly doubt that it's true, because it says they've been apart since may 15th(?) and well, its June, we ought to have some news by now other than just rumors, and the geffen, universal, suretone logos are still displayed and active on thecure.com and the cure is still listed as an artist signed to the label at the geffen site, so it's all very effy.
ReplyDeleteThe Cure are under a 3 album deal with Universal. I would feel more comfortable with this rumor if the dark album was out.
ReplyDeletePersonally I think this news is premature thinking, we know The Cure are going to leave Universal within the next year or so, I doubt it has already happened - too many loose ties.... Although I would LOVE to be proved wrong!!
Andrew: Both sides have an out clause. They don't have to honor the 3 record deal.
ReplyDeleteAnd some are saying that because it wasn't a single, Hypnagogic States is being counted as an album.
No idea if that's true or not.
This 'rumor' DOES tell me one thing - no new Dark album this year until things are settled.
ReplyDeleteAnd I like JUST SAY YES!
This is really interesting, can't wait to see what happens next. Hope they'll give us some information soon. :)
ReplyDeleteit makes a lot of sense i think that this is true.. in the interview robert said that the dark album songs werent completed fr leagl/recordco reasons didnt he/? surely because if he says hed completed them then universal own the rights to them .. if he has parted company then they cat have rights to unfinished songa can they? so .. my guess is they are in fact finished and he cant say anything until all the legal guff is sorted with a split from universal :):):)
ReplyDeleteElektra Records has been restarted. I'm sure they're eager to sign up some bands.
ReplyDeleteSo if the rumor holds true, I would suspect they'd go back to Elektra where there's new management etc.
Too bad it wasn't Fiction, but it's as close to home as home can be.
Hopefully they will have the sense to come back to a "European" label..or even a UK one...closer to home and more freedom...no disrespect but i think the band's been treated poorly since they went " american" and a change is needed..i hope this rumour turns out to be true.
ReplyDeleteI believe it,album sales in the states were atrocious,but to set up on there own label will not be easy.
ReplyDeleteIf you go onto the Geffen/Interscope website, The Cure aren't on the artist list anymore...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.interscope.com/artists/default.aspx