tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post5570024755792208255..comments2024-03-08T10:14:28.748-06:00Comments on Chain Of Flowers: Big Gig on YouTubeCraighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17355214926335490436noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-55584287898322830022009-03-24T15:48:00.000-05:002009-03-24T15:48:00.000-05:00Thanks for the links! I enjoyed watching each one...Thanks for the links! I enjoyed watching each one very much! Icure_kittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00080479419910823601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-77718047508586181652009-03-22T19:16:00.000-05:002009-03-22T19:16:00.000-05:00FAT BOB IS A SOLD OUT SCANDAL!!!For me, at least! ...FAT BOB IS A SOLD OUT SCANDAL!!!<BR/>For me, at least! After coming across this info... Well, I'd expect this from U2, never from The Cure... I've been a fan for over 20 years and it's the first time I feel betrayed!<BR/>Well, "lonely is as lonely does" and that's that! If he still can sleep at night, I really don't give a sh*t!... Malcom Maclaren took over him and they deserve each other! Now Baraka can own a Cure CD!!! How nice!...Paulo Martinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05370505531037564916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-67930935026353738252009-03-21T11:30:00.000-05:002009-03-21T11:30:00.000-05:00Thank you for this.I've just uploaded a rare 1985 ...Thank you for this.<BR/><BR/>I've just uploaded a rare 1985 BBC Recording LP onto my blog: http://rippedinglasgow.blogspot.comMoggieboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16978347390625182242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-81015153333139547762009-03-19T17:46:00.000-05:002009-03-19T17:46:00.000-05:00I wouldn't go so far as to say Robert's taken the ...I wouldn't go so far as to say Robert's taken the 'easy way out', that's not a fair statement. The way I look at it is, he's trying to be sensitive to the Arab community in this very anti-Arab climate much of the world (not just America) has been living in since, I guess 2001. Ignorant folks EVERYWHERE have misused this song in their efforts to celebrate their mindless, cockamamie prejudices.I can understand his reasons for changing the title as far as that's concerned. <BR/><BR/>It *is* his music; he doesn't want it used in *that* way and he should do what he feels is right. I bitch and complain here and there, but I trust that he knows what he's doing and that he knows better than I do! (what with being well over 3,000 years old-look it up). Still, I wish KAA wasn't left off the remaster of TIB! And no, I don't want to buy the deluxe edition. 8ppHelsabothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18103660015575563071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-68173630764312683452009-03-19T15:02:00.000-05:002009-03-19T15:02:00.000-05:00Who did Mersault killed? A man? You could sum it u...Who did Mersault killed? A man? You could sum it up like that. But you can alongate a little bit and say that he killed an Arab! And I think arabs should get angry to be treated as another and not by something specific. Let's call things by their names. At least all of US who are not from the land of the free (US). A black guy is a black guy. He is not african american. He never saw Africa... I am white. I don't make other people say that I'm european or caucasian... it's the coloUr of my skin! And it's just that! And through this post we can take that if you say you like The Cure that means just that and nothing else intellectually. Everything I read about the bands I like had much influence on who I am today. But all our idols have feet of clay, that's why I've been an iconoclast half of my life.mehrlichthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00078144572988479298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-76660667311715020182009-03-19T06:27:00.000-05:002009-03-19T06:27:00.000-05:00Merlicht - 100% spot on another example of Robert ...Merlicht - 100% spot on <BR/><BR/>another example of Robert taking the easy option which has sadly become the norm these days.<BR/><BR/>Changing it is basically admitting that it is racist, even when we all know it's not.Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10294534489755289456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-90351917873480873642009-03-18T15:19:00.000-05:002009-03-18T15:19:00.000-05:00Thanks for the info Heron. I knew most of the hist...Thanks for the info Heron. I knew most of the history behind it but I always wondered why it wasn't on the TIB remaster! >X(<BR/>I can understand Robert wanting to change the name, but was it really necessary to take it off the album? Couldn't he have just put an insert in the CD case, something like "STUPID PEOPLE, KILLING AN ARAB IS NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY. GO EDUCATE YOURSELVES, YOU FREAKING INGNORANT CLODS." <BR/>I suppose he'd want to be more diplomatic than that, but still I think it's better to educate rather than to change the name, or leave it off the album altogether. Oh well. >8/Helsabothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18103660015575563071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-48138391698307465632009-03-18T02:57:00.000-05:002009-03-18T02:57:00.000-05:00*Waves Back at Elise*Hope all well Down Under!*Waves Back at Elise*<BR/><BR/>Hope all well Down Under!Robert but not THE Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07470723152378940116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-50831175634963787162009-03-17T21:24:00.000-05:002009-03-17T21:24:00.000-05:00*waves at Rob**waves at Rob*altr2elisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12189273569462390132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-74248110260232967082009-03-17T16:01:00.000-05:002009-03-17T16:01:00.000-05:00Just in case anyone is in ANY doubt over the song ...Just in case anyone is in ANY doubt over the song - read L'etranger / The Stranger by Albert Camus. Heron - great job on the history of the controversy but some of the younger crowd might not appreciate where the "Arab" came from in the first place. Its a long time since I read it but it impacted on my life and view of the world.<BR/><BR/>I was considering getting a T-shirt done with "Born again existentialist, Killing..." on the front and ".....Another" on the back. Any takers?Robert but not THE Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07470723152378940116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-78191091501214598892009-03-17T14:20:00.000-05:002009-03-17T14:20:00.000-05:00Hi Rev. Heron, I remember the anti-racist stickers...Hi Rev. Heron,<BR/><BR/> I remember the anti-racist stickers, there was one on the cover of my Standing On a Beach cassette lo so many years ago ... I can understand Smith's reason for changing the lyric, it just bothers me that it had to be done. Ah the world ...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03616388824580094156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-50581155172097597402009-03-17T11:46:00.000-05:002009-03-17T11:46:00.000-05:00A large, powerfully built guy meets a woman at a b...A large, powerfully built guy meets a woman at a bar. After a number of drinks, they agree to go back to his place. As they are starting to make out in the bedroom, he stands up and starts to undress.<BR/><BR/>After he takes his shirt off, he flexes his muscular arms and says, "See that, baby? That's 1000 pounds of dynamite!" She begins to drool.<BR/><BR/>The man drops his trousers, strikes a body builder's pose, and says, referring to his bulging thighs, "See those, baby? That is 1000 pounds of dynamite!" She is aching for action at this point.<BR/><BR/>Finally, he drops his underpants, and after a quick glance, she grabs her purse and runs screaming to the front door.<BR/><BR/>He catches her before she is able to leave and asks, "Why are you in such a hurry to go?"<BR/><BR/>She replies, "With 2000 pounds of dynamite and such a short fuse, I was afraid you were about to blow!"swiftyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08050214646511863881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-64338365234143320372009-03-17T08:01:00.000-05:002009-03-17T08:01:00.000-05:00It is fantastic to re-live the concert. I would lo...It is fantastic to re-live the concert. I would love to see the whole show.altr2elisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12189273569462390132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-31074225310879455552009-03-17T07:32:00.000-05:002009-03-17T07:32:00.000-05:00Great show. Wish I could see the rest!!Great show. Wish I could see the rest!!hynreckandjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12074598416931954218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-26590284657482729682009-03-17T00:55:00.000-05:002009-03-17T00:55:00.000-05:00That was awesome. A great Cure show.That was awesome. A great Cure show.mettadatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13228049696867735579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-33347309224035379022009-03-16T18:05:00.000-05:002009-03-16T18:05:00.000-05:00People can never get the real meaning. Had they r...People can never get the real meaning. Had they really known. Just like how Reagan used "Born in U.S.A." when it had nothing to do with American pride.<BR/><BR/>I LOVE LOVE the way they do it live. So fast and punk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-27486293193200841832009-03-16T17:01:00.000-05:002009-03-16T17:01:00.000-05:00I'm in favour of the new title "Killing Another". ...I'm in favour of the new title "Killing Another". Think it's a good thing and that the old one was uselessly deranging. This one, here and now, might get the song on a new compilation.<BR/><BR/>The original version ?? I don't know. Still the live version as they played it on the Big Gig is F***ing Geil !!!! :) :)Maniken PYS (LeChienNoir)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13387120160055054375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-52611977986136344212009-03-16T16:47:00.000-05:002009-03-16T16:47:00.000-05:00Hey Brendan, I can explain some of the "Killing an...Hey Brendan, <BR/>I can explain some of the "Killing an Arab / Killing Another" thing. <BR/>*puts on old timer's hat, hangs an onion off belt* <BR/><BR/>When the song was included on the "Standing on A Beach" compilation in 1986, it generated a huge controversy about the song, and for a long time the Standing on a Beach albums were sold with stickers on them decrying the use of it as a racist anthem (I don't know if this is still the case). <BR/><BR/>Much to Robert's continued horror, the song has been used by many groups to promote violence against those of Arab descent. <BR/><BR/>Back in the days of the first Gulf War in the early 1990's, some American (lunkhead) soldiers - without any appreciation of the underlying message or philosophy of the song - decided that it would make a great theme song to go into the Middle East with, and this re-stirred the controversy, as did similar use of it in the more recent wars.<BR/><BR/>It was not performed live for quite some time for these reasons, and the song was actually dropped completely from the remaster of Three Imaginary Boys, presumably due to the conflicts still raging in the Middle East and the potential for continued mis-use. <BR/><BR/>It has been slowly re-introduced to the more recent live gigs as part of the wonderful "Old School Encore", and is always sung with the line "Killing an Arab" changed to the more neutral "Killing Another".Rev. Heronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00978515318693798097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-57679890321478480242009-03-16T15:41:00.000-05:002009-03-16T15:41:00.000-05:00UTS - i can't stop watching it.wouldn't it make a ...UTS - i can't stop watching it.<BR/><BR/>wouldn't it make a great make-up gift from TMU to put this whole gig in as a DVD extra with the Dark? very fitting for the 30th too.the Big Gingehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09811563304776685749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-77601785753625796792009-03-16T07:53:00.000-05:002009-03-16T07:53:00.000-05:00Thanks a lot for the upload, looking forward to wa...Thanks a lot for the upload, looking forward to watching those!!hynreckandjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12074598416931954218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-64610323579992747892009-03-16T07:25:00.000-05:002009-03-16T07:25:00.000-05:00Hi Helsabot!Hi Helsabot!Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13977819749160879253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-84473403364000743702009-03-16T02:52:00.000-05:002009-03-16T02:52:00.000-05:00They edited a few bits of the interview. The inter...They edited a few bits of the interview. The interview that was up on the O2 Channel had a few more 'interesting' parts. During the Bowie part, RS said 'do a fucking encore!!" or words to that effect, and then when talking about the Reading Festival he said something like 'We're going to fucking have you now!'OShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04065139800819043723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-48180721588059001282009-03-16T01:06:00.000-05:002009-03-16T01:06:00.000-05:00No problem. Glad you found it. : )No problem. Glad you found it. : )Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17355214926335490436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-66506501382364180912009-03-16T01:05:00.000-05:002009-03-16T01:05:00.000-05:00Sorry Craig - we posted at the same time...:-)Sorry Craig - we posted at the same time...<BR/>:-)sameoldacthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00180954790806593601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-90394843692101811052009-03-16T01:04:00.000-05:002009-03-16T01:04:00.000-05:00Just found the torrent. Thanks. Woo hoo! (Killing ...Just found the torrent. Thanks. Woo hoo! <BR/><BR/>(Killing Another *used* to be Killing an Arab...someone else can explain if necessary)sameoldacthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00180954790806593601noreply@blogger.com