tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post1008938227802998781..comments2024-03-08T10:14:28.748-06:00Comments on Chain Of Flowers: Roger on BBC Radio DevonCraighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17355214926335490436noreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-27469108790593887232010-05-31T03:53:26.847-05:002010-05-31T03:53:26.847-05:00Why can't they all just kiss and make up so we...Why can't they all just kiss and make up so we can get on with our lives!!!<br /><br />I need to see The Cure live again, twice is simply not enoughTralfamadorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02731405120253603722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-13404103386882604432010-05-30T16:00:29.258-05:002010-05-30T16:00:29.258-05:00J.
I made "...the diff horses..." refer...J.<br /><br />I made "...the diff horses..." reference.<br /><br />I agree with what you're saying especially regarding 4:13 being the most Cure sounding since Wish. (hate the drum machine loops though ...)<br /><br />Also agree with the notion that they should have simply not performed songs where the keys were irreplaceable, like Why Can't... and a few others. Although I thought the Troubadour performance of Close to Me was absolutely brilliant.<br /><br />Also on the comment by someone else regarding Porl holding things up. I think you are way off base. Robert is making remixes of CDs (Mixed Up 2), DVDs and performing on others' CDs lately. I think he is busy doing what he is doing and the Porl Flux really isn't holding The Cure back. Let's face it, the fact is Robert IS The Cure; and The Cure will perform or record whenever he wants it to (regardless of other band member availability or 'mood').robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115732342413630044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-30853228008155694932010-05-30T15:10:56.032-05:002010-05-30T15:10:56.032-05:00As much as I love Porl - I do hope this current st...As much as I love Porl - I do hope this current state of limbo (or 'flux') the band is in, isn't attributed solely to his indecision about staying with the group or not.<br /><br />If it is just him holding things up, I say leave him. I would rather the guys press on without him/replace him than spend any more time of inactivity. Maybe I'm just impatient though.AndrewV127https://www.blogger.com/profile/07204411285553318117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-47797280615864747252010-05-30T14:32:28.510-05:002010-05-30T14:32:28.510-05:00Going back to someone's "different horses...Going back to someone's "different horses..." comment. To me, 4:13 sounded more like a Cure album (whatever that means) than any since Wish, I attributed that to Porl, if not his playing, maybe his influence on the writing. He definitely brought an energy into the live shows that hadn't been there for awhile. <br /><br />I think they made the mistake of playing some songs that just NEED keyboards. Close to Me, Kyoto Song, Why Can't I Be You? are a few that come to mind. However, I feel that Inbetween Days, Lullaby, Just Like Heaven worked without keyboards. Maybe that's a testament to the strength being in the songs and not the instrumentation.<br /><br />Fingers crossed that Porl stays in the group... and if not, maybe "Strange Sensations" should reunite... Robert Plant, half of Portishead and Porl among others...J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14823908182186889081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-23999362234416854992010-05-30T13:16:49.480-05:002010-05-30T13:16:49.480-05:00Robert, Simon and Lol together again? The Cure 201...Robert, Simon and Lol together again? The Cure 2011?<br />(even if i'd like Porl with them)Galatimusichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09722237461942319171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-20767950086079327632010-05-30T10:22:55.606-05:002010-05-30T10:22:55.606-05:00About the other members: Perry was not a replaceme...About the other members: Perry was not a replacement carefully chosen so to speak. He was what was available at the time for a number of reasons. But he really improved his playing over time, and even not being the guitar hero we all wanted him to be (and I mean real guitar hero, not a game thing), he was quite good in his last days.<br /><br />It seems that Porl joined in this time in a similar situation as when Perry did. They needed a guitarist that could not only just play the songs but that could add that "extra" (the missing keyboards...) thing to them live, as in studio it's not really necessary, anyone can layer guitar tracks endlessly. And the nearest person available for that with that much instant Cure "knowledge" was Porl, besides the obvious connections between him and Robert.<br /><br />Being so close to Porl, I guess Robert didn't want to say that it was a very different Porl (musically) this time. My guess is that playing with Page didn't do him good. One thing comes to mind, the Guitar Player interview in 1992. When asked about the guitar feedback, RS said "it's Porl" and to me it didn't sound like a compliment, but more like a complaint. And he quit the band about that time, not much longer after that interview.<br /><br />And to add the cherry to the cake in the guitar world, we had the Schecters.<br /><br />As for the drums I'd like any other drummer Cure has ever had over Jason, period. Even Lol, which seems to be still in shape (watch the Levinhurst videos if you're in doubt). Andy was quite a powerful drummer live too. Jason can be a nice guy, but that's not all. Roger is too, and he was fired anyway.Mr. Mandelbrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109784033049928423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-9579833857837789272010-05-30T09:59:48.060-05:002010-05-30T09:59:48.060-05:00Robert wanted to try a different thing without key...Robert wanted to try a different thing without keyboards, hence he had to fire whomever was in charge of that. It was a mistake (to kill the keyboards), now he is somehow regretting it I suppose, as we can see he's using some backing kayboards in DATs here and there.<br /><br />The same thought about the keyboard player playing something just because he's there applies to Porl (or whomever the guitarist is) and his extremely noisy annoyances when trying to fill the keyboard parts. His first concerts when the keyboards were gone were just awful.<br /><br />A guitar shouldn't be played when it's not required as well. In some songs, an extra keyboard or an extra guitar makes a difference (to me, Killing an Arab and 100 years were improved with keyboards), but not all the time.<br /><br />I really wouldn't mind if the keyboards are back, no matter who will be playing them.Mr. Mandelbrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109784033049928423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-21876620543040738982010-05-30T09:55:12.352-05:002010-05-30T09:55:12.352-05:00i like porl, but i like perry too.
of course, if ...i like porl, but i like perry too.<br /><br />of course, if i were perry, i would probably not want to come back after being pretty much replaced though.<br /><br />still.. three piece cure? live? i just don't see that..Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00971064662496072995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-29636987137207417902010-05-30T09:28:54.671-05:002010-05-30T09:28:54.671-05:00he seems very keen to take all the credit - esp wh...he seems very keen to take all the credit - esp when he had diddly to do with the writing ,, seems a bit rum to me.. <br />i like all cure incarnations for what its worth ..and dont really want them to go back n copy themselves ..more change! more flux! please:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-3081531208537788452010-05-30T09:21:53.622-05:002010-05-30T09:21:53.622-05:00Let's face it Perry was the guitar tech ... hi...Let's face it Perry was the guitar tech ... his becoming a member of The Cure was essentially a "Forest Gump event".<br /><br />He could never play to the level of Porl (guitar or keys), and I think Perry would be the first to admit it.<br /><br />If Porl is not coming back, I doubt that at this stage of his career that Robert would bring on a new guitarist.robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115732342413630044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-43941107400267151522010-05-30T03:36:05.383-05:002010-05-30T03:36:05.383-05:00he should keep porl and get perry and roger back, ...he should keep porl and get perry and roger back, 6 PIECE ULTIMATE CURE!Tralfamadorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02731405120253603722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-16925366641033514802010-05-30T01:25:37.796-05:002010-05-30T01:25:37.796-05:00The question is - would Perry actually rejoin? He ...The question is - would Perry actually rejoin? He was fired and replaced. Never mentioned and not missed. In comparison to say, Boris; who is constantly brought up in fan conversations about perfect line-ups, Perry is never spoken about in the same regard. Maybe there is a reason for that.<br /><br />But I digress, all I know is that if I were Perry, I wouldn't be leaping at the chance to go back. I would find it insulting if as soon as the guy that fired me asked me to return after my replacement left. Especially after Robert spent most of the 4-Tour's interviews singing Porls praises.AndrewV127https://www.blogger.com/profile/07204411285553318117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-14617318061215685482010-05-30T01:07:09.820-05:002010-05-30T01:07:09.820-05:00In some respects Jason deserves an apology from a ...In some respects Jason deserves an apology from a lot of his critics (myself included.)<br />Judging from Entreat Plus, Robert enjoys his drums sounding like a cardboard box. Jason probably has little say in the matter. He was fine on The Swing Tour, everything since has been a bit questionable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-68522569277018392342010-05-29T23:25:18.627-05:002010-05-29T23:25:18.627-05:00i think i'd choose porl over roger.
while it ...i think i'd choose porl over roger.<br /><br />while it was pleasant to think of a possibility of roger coming back, it's definitely very sad to think of porl gone. he has definitely done a wonderful job during the last few years.<br /><br />i most fear a new addition at this stage in their career. the last thing we need is a guitarist for people to tear apart the way people tear apart jason. unfortunately, perry's name doesn't seem to be floating around at all, so i have no idea who's under consideration - and that's what scares me. :(<br /><br />to me the dilemma of a lack of keys is very small in comparison to the lack of a guitarist.Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00971064662496072995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-83319157656103355732010-05-29T21:34:27.547-05:002010-05-29T21:34:27.547-05:00Blogger E N T R E A T said...
@Paul, The Sch...Blogger E N T R E A T said...<br /><br /> @Paul, The Schecter guitars are great guitars, it is the effects that are being used, I have the Ultracure and have owned 3 other Schecters, they sound great, but it depends on his effects which are alot different now. I have put a link here to show the sound of the Schecter Ultracure, this is my song, all of the guitar here is the Ultracure, I am not the best player or mixer, but anyway, I do somewhat miss the old Porl style however, it seems like he plays a long squirrely solo over all of the songs on the new album, and a lot of wah, although Wish had that as well. We all want the perfect line up and that is different to all of us, everyone seems to complain about Jason, but I think he's a fine drummer. I hate the drum heads he uses though, they sound like paint buckets and the pre recorded stuff has to go, but I think that's Roberts idea. anyway in these twilight years of the group I look forward to it all and am thankful I was able to experience a masterpiece like Disintegration the day it came out all those years ago, I dont need another Disintegration, they have already done it, keep going in new directions. I got off on a rant here, sorry......here is the link to my song using the Ultracure<br /> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TM0bkglIDY<br /><br /> here is another one using only the Ultracure guitar <br /> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r4jhqPD-oYE N T R E A Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02325582434264234677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-15085112092813259292010-05-29T21:04:52.212-05:002010-05-29T21:04:52.212-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.E N T R E A Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02325582434264234677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-10697333887380449982010-05-29T20:55:30.089-05:002010-05-29T20:55:30.089-05:00Listen to Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me and tell me Porl...Listen to Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me and tell me Porl doesn't bring anything to the Cure... seriously. <br /><br />To whoever was shitting on Porl... have you heard "From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea" live in the last couple of years? <br /><br />Porl makes the Cure interesting... the five piece of the 2nd half of the 90s/ 1st half of the '00s peaked around Bloodflowers... Porl put some life back into the group.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14823908182186889081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-33680374511199699002010-05-29T20:08:28.096-05:002010-05-29T20:08:28.096-05:00Porl is amazing!Porl is amazing!MissDrea83https://www.blogger.com/profile/03962202272180615753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-49126861218200559202010-05-29T20:01:45.101-05:002010-05-29T20:01:45.101-05:00To all the Porl haters, blow the dust off your Sho...To all the Porl haters, blow the dust off your Show CD and have a listen. It may remind you of exactly why he will always be welcome in The Cure. ;)Shannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03280110676088326661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-11304416099312121722010-05-29T19:55:57.494-05:002010-05-29T19:55:57.494-05:00Sorry for my mistake. And yes! FRAK the flux! (BSG...Sorry for my mistake. And yes! FRAK the flux! (BSG fan here!)<br /><br />I would love the addition of Roger with the lineup as of recent. However, being a HUGE fan of "Show"...I wouldn't mind Perry being back...MissDrea83https://www.blogger.com/profile/03962202272180615753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-63146344940063241772010-05-29T19:29:14.041-05:002010-05-29T19:29:14.041-05:00Maybe it'll be like that season of Dallas and ...Maybe it'll be like that season of Dallas and we can pretend the last five years have been nothing but a dream.<br />This band could go with a fresh start. I doubt Roger would rejoin. If he and Robert are on good terms again why risk ruining that by working together again? <br />I'd love to see The Prayer Tour lineup together again, but only if they were all having fun doing it. Even if it was just a one off tour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-1760845813683344312010-05-29T18:48:08.252-05:002010-05-29T18:48:08.252-05:00Um... Perry?Um... Perry?Joquahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16334802705752258229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-12024367068699073842010-05-29T18:11:47.207-05:002010-05-29T18:11:47.207-05:00Screw Porl. I'm going to be beyond happy if he...Screw Porl. I'm going to be beyond happy if he's gone.<br />He's done about as much good for the Cure as schecter guitars have.<br />I've never heard the songs song as bad live as they have in the past few years.<br />Go back to your Zeppelin cover band baldy and don't let the door hit you in the ass.paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17327131352540962790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-28242222761413994292010-05-29T17:18:40.573-05:002010-05-29T17:18:40.573-05:00Porl is in flux right now. No one knows for sure e...Porl is in flux right now. No one knows for sure except for Porl and Robert.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17355214926335490436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1886767188052333210.post-23518330826928313752010-05-29T17:13:24.543-05:002010-05-29T17:13:24.543-05:00What did I miss about Porl? is he out?What did I miss about Porl? is he out?E N T R E A Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02325582434264234677noreply@blogger.com